Canuck E Stan Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 It will be interesting to hear him up here. Why? Will that make him less American? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Canadian Blue Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Why is it the Liberals always go for speakers who don't live in, have ever spent a substantial amount of time in Canada??? Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
jdobbin Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Why is it the Liberals always go for speakers who don't live in, have ever spent a substantial amount of time in Canada??? Howard Dean used to come to Canada once a week to do his TV series. Quote
gerryhatrick Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 Oh!!!! Harper is in bed with the Republicans!!! Harper loves the Republicans!!! Harper wants to turn us into US-lite!!! And then the Liberals invite Howard Dean to speak. The difference is that being in bed with the Bush Republicans is something to be concerned about, while being in bed with the newly elected Democrats has not been demonstrated assuch. What's the difference? Please gerry, besides partisan rhetoric, what really is the difference? If the Chairman of the Republican party spoke here, all hell would break lose in the media. Admit it, it's just a partisan difference and the Liberals are being very cozy with the Dems down south. Oh, I'll freely admit that. The CPC would never have the Chairman of the Republican party speak here. Why not? Uh, lessee.....Iraq? Or how about...gay marriage? Or.....abortion? Wait, I got the best of them all ---> BUSH! Canadians, by a wide margin, believe Bush has made the world a more dangerous place. That's not "partisan rhetoric" G, it's reality. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 In reality the "Dean Scream" had an effect on his chances in the primary. Since he became Chairman of the DNC he's done a really good job. Anyone who says he didn't play an important part in the elections doesn't understand US politics. It will be interesting to hear him up here. Hmmm, I didn't realize Dean played a role in recruiting such conservative minded candidates. I know he played a role in Ned Lamont beating Joe Lieberman for the nomination in Connecticut ... oh wait. I didn't realize Dean played a role in the Republicans ongoing hard-line stance in Iraq or in the Mark Foley scandal..... doesn't understand US politics The Liberals inviting Dean up here to speak and calling him an amazing choice ... yeah. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 Labour drafts in US election architect for 'our midterms'Howard Dean to advise party on campaigning strategy ahead of key May vote Tania Branigan and Julian Borger Saturday November 11, 2006 The Guardian Labour has enlisted one of the engineers of this week's Democratic victory in the US midterm elections in an attempt to boost its flagging fortunes before the local elections in May. Howard Dean, the former presidential candidate and one of the men credited with masterminding the trouncing of the Republicans, will visit the UK next month to brief party officials about his pioneering campaigning techniques. snip Ms Blears believes Labour can benefit from the tactics used so effectively by the chairman of the Democratic national committee. "Part of [their new success] is politics, but it's also about organisation," she said. She also said Labour could benefit from the so-called "viral" tactics Mr Dean helped pioneer. http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/stor...=rss&feed=1 Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Using a left-wing British paper as a source for your statement about a U.S. politician just goes to prove how weak your original statement was. Are you saying that Dean didn't support Ned Lamont? Had a role in the Bush administration's ongoing hardline on Iraq? Was connected at all with the Mark Foley scandal? You make a statement like Anyone who says Dean didn't play an important part in the elections doesn't understand US politics. then follow it up with a link from a left-leaning British newspaper. wtf?Hmmm, guess you proved how much you do know about US politics then. Instead of posting a link to another article that exposes more of your ignorance just answer the questions. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 Instead of posting a link to another article that exposes more of your ignorance just answer the questions. I am not required to answer your questions, just as you are not required to read a legitimate article and respond to it in an intelligent fashion. I understand your reaction to the article. I'm sure it opens your eyes on how many see Dean. Instead of attacking The Guardian, why not attack The Labour Party? They are the ones inviting him. They are the ones who consider him to have been a architect of the Democrat victory. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
gerryhatrick Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 USA Today "winners and losers" Howard Dean: winner! Howard Dean: The Democratic Party chairman feuded with top Democrats in Congress over his plan to send cash to states where his party typically doesn't win much. It paid off with victories in red states such as Montana and Colorado. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/20...rs-losers_x.htm Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 I understand your reaction to the article. I'm sure it opens your eyes on how many see Dean.Instead of attacking The Guardian, why not attack The Labour Party? They are the ones inviting him. They are the ones who consider him to have been a architect of the Democrat victory. It was the Liberal Party of Canada who invited Dean. That's what YOU started this thread about. What are you talking about??? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 USA Today "winners and losers"Howard Dean: winner! Howard Dean: The Democratic Party chairman feuded with top Democrats in Congress over his plan to send cash to states where his party typically doesn't win much. It paid off with victories in red states such as Montana and Colorado. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/20...rs-losers_x.htm No you are supporting how much you "know" about US politics with a two-liner from the McPaper? Hmmm, you didn't answer the questions because they point out the fallacy in your statement. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Canadian Blue Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 But didn't Labour fully support Bush in Iraq. I'd think Dean would imagine himself much more at home with the Liberal Democrats if he opposes the war in Iraq. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
gerryhatrick Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 No you are supporting how much you "know" about US politics with a two-liner from the McPaper?Hmmm, you didn't answer the questions because they point out the fallacy in your statement. No, I am supporting the fact that Dean was an important player in the recent Democratic victory. Do you disagree with that? There are several reasons given in the Guardian article which you're unwilling to read. Now here's another reason provided by USA Today. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 No, I am supporting the fact that Dean was an important player in the recent Democratic victory. Do you disagree with that? There are several reasons given in the Guardian article which you're unwilling to read. Now here's another reason provided by USA Today. I think the importance of Dean's role shouldn't be over-stated. The questions I brought up were valid. As somebody who supports the Democrats I think it is not in the party's best interest for Dean to get too much credit for the election results. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Topaz Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 What Clinton wasn't available? Why an American Lib? At least, ask for John Kerry, he's a very good speaker. Quote
gerryhatrick Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Posted November 12, 2006 What Clinton wasn't available? Why an American Lib? At least, ask for John Kerry, he's a very good speaker. Clinton was just here. Why not an American? You have something against Americans? Remember Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster from America? He met with the Conservatives. Even had a private meeting with Harper. Very interesting story, see my sig. Dean represents victory. He initiated some very effective strategies which can be credited in the Democratic thumpin' of the Conservatives. And he's a very good speaker. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 12, 2006 Report Posted November 12, 2006 Dean represents victory. He initiated some very effective strategies which can be credited in the Democratic thumpin' of the Conservatives. And he's a very good speaker. There is no Conservative party in the US. Is that an outright lie Gerry or are you just too blinded in your hatred of the Conservatives to realized you are talking about American politics. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Posted November 12, 2006 Dean represents victory. He initiated some very effective strategies which can be credited in the Democratic thumpin' of the Conservatives. And he's a very good speaker. There is no Conservative party in the US. Is that an outright lie Gerry or are you just too blinded in your hatred of the Conservatives to realized you are talking about American politics. I see you've decided to take up your trolling behavior against me again. Hopefully greg finds the courage to put a stop to it this time. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 12, 2006 Report Posted November 12, 2006 I see you've decided to take up your trolling behavior against me again.Hopefully greg finds the courage to put a stop to it this time. It isn't trolling if I point out your lies Gerry. It is called honesty and it should be welcomed here on this board. Are you so lacking in the ability to support your "facts" that all you can do is cry troll? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gerryhatrick Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Posted November 12, 2006 I see you've decided to take up your trolling behavior against me again.Hopefully greg finds the courage to put a stop to it this time. It isn't trolling if I point out your lies Gerry. It is called honesty and it should be welcomed here on this board. Are you so lacking in the ability to support your "facts" that all you can do is cry troll? To call what I said a "lie" and then ask me if I'm "blinded in your hatred of the Conservatives" is trolling. I will not have you accusing me of hatred anymore Ricki, so yes, I will cry troll. You are looking for a reaction, quite obviously. Now you've got it. You decide to begin it, and you can decide to end it. I called the Republican Party "Conservatives". They are conservatives. I didn't say "conservative party". You decided to take THAT and call me a liar and question if my hatred is making me lie. Classic trolling behaviour. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Canadian Blue Posted November 12, 2006 Report Posted November 12, 2006 Lets see RB and GH, both who have been guilty of partisan trolling. GH, pretty well everything you post has something to do with you hating Stephen Harper, and RB, well he just plain hates you. So your both trolls. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 12, 2006 Report Posted November 12, 2006 Let's move it back to the thread topic. Howard Dean is not beloved in the Democratic Party. Even James Carville questioned Dean on CNN. James Carville said the Democrats won in spite of the efforts of Howard Dean as DNC Chair and suggested that Harold Ford replace Dean. Here's the source on that. James Carville is a real winner. Managing Clinton in 1992 and 1996. He is a much more respected figure in the Democratic party. Had the Liberals gotten Carville as their keynote speaker that would have been a real coup. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
scribblet Posted November 17, 2006 Report Posted November 17, 2006 Weeeaaaaaggghhhhh! 'We're going to South Carolina, and Oklahoma, and Arizona, and North Dakota, and New Mexico, and we're going to California, and Texas, and New York, and we're going to South Dakota, and Oregon, and Washington, and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C., to take back the White House ... WEEEAAAAAGGGHHHHH!" Guess things didn't quite go as he planned, maybe he'll do for the Liberals what he did for the democrats then. LOL At least the Liberals can no longer use the feigned indignation of having an "American style' policy poop all over the CPC if they do. Maybe the Liberals are completely dazzled with American style politics .... Weeeaaaaaggghhhhh! Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
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