Americans insult Canadians

[ft.niagara]

The U.S. was well aware of the live fire exercise. They told the officer to hold fire. He didn't and subsequently, he was court martialled.

You have a big country. Many military ranges. Why go to A to do target practice?????

[killjoy]

VietNam, harboring draft dodgers.

And yet more Canadians went down to the states to volunteer to go to Vietnam than Americans who came up here to skip the draft. Maybe you should stop listening to Rush.

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[ft.niagara]

Frankly, I am surprised that Canada has any troops abroad.

Frankly, since we're all talking about insults here, I'm a little insulted that as an American you didn't know we had troops in Afghanistan, let alone that we are suffering the highest per capita casualty rate there.

I certainly knew they were there, I said I am surprised that they were there given Canada's pacifist nature.

[ft.niagara]

VietNam, harboring draft dodgers.

And yet more Canadians went down to the states to volunteer to go to Vietnam than Americans who came up here to skip the draft. Maybe you should stop listening to Rush.

Canadaians joining the American military has nothing to do with harboring draft dodgers, silly. We are talking about Canadian national policy, I thought.

[killjoy]

More BS...You said only three posts ago you weren't aware of any Canadian troops overseas and now you claim "of course I knew". No you didn't. Now, despite Korea, Afghanistan, mobilizing 10% of our population as soldiers to go to WWII (more than any other ally) and volunteering to go to Vietnam --- IOW, in spite of the bleeding obvious you decide we have a 'pacifist nature.'

You're an idiot. Plain and simple.

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[ft.niagara]

VietNam, harboring draft dodgers.

Maybe you should stop listening to Rush.

What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with anything. You don't like him. Do you disagree with him. Do you ever listen to him?

[jdobbin]

It is one thing to not be involved, and it another to be culpable in actively working to defeat. VietNam, harboring draft dodgers. Iraq, the CBC, government mouthpiece, is not much better than Al Jazerra.

I don't think the U.S. asked for extradition for people who fled service. And given Canadian friendship with the U.S., Americans were welcomed not as refugees but as immigrants.

Now, our policy on immigration is much tighter and refugee status on fleeing U.S. military service isn't being given legitimacy. American soldiers are returning home to face consequences.

[killjoy]

Canadaians joining the American military has nothing to do with harboring draft dodgers, silly. We are talking about Canadian national policy, I thought.

No but it does speak to us not being pacifists which you haven't admitted you're wrong about yet.

Do you know what an extradition treaty is and it's mechanics? No obviously you don't so why not shut up and quit while you're ahead. So far in the past 10 posts you've lied, displayed your complete ignorance and lack of any knowledge on a topic you're determined to convince us you know something about.

Why not quit while you're ahead kid?

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[jdobbin]

It is one thing to not be involved, and it another to be culpable in actively working to defeat. VietNam, harboring draft dodgers. Iraq, the CBC, government mouthpiece, is not much better than Al Jazerra.

Canada was still enforcing U.N. ruling 1441 with a naval blockade during the war. The Canadian government wished the U.S. success but said that it couldn't move forward without a further ruling by the U.N. specifically authorizing force. Canada worked to get a ruling, not against it.

CBC has probably been milder than the U.S. networks and major newspapers when it comes to daily reports of the conflict.

[killjoy]

What does Rush Limbaugh have to do with anything. You don't like him. Do you disagree with him. Do you ever listen to him?

You haven't made sense even once. Lets review:

You said you were unaware that Canadian troops were overseas then try and claim you knew they were in Afghanistan.

You thought we only had small arms.

You call us pacifists despite the self-evident fact that we aren't, (Afghanistan – which you didn’t know about, WWI, WWII [10% of our population – more than any other ally], Korea and on and on).

You know you don't know what you're talking about and yet you keep on talking. You're a classic idiot-troll.

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[jdobbin]

You have a big country. Many military ranges. Why go to A to do target practice?????

The U.S. and Canada use Afghanistan for live fire practice because it helps get the troops ready for that type of terrain. Also, with six or more months in the country, they need the troops to be sharp and working together all the time. They need to practice tactics. It is a little hard to do that in winter in Canada.

[ft.niagara]

More BS...You said only three posts ago you weren't aware of any Canadian troops overseas and now you claim "of course I knew". No you didn't. Now, despite Korea, Afghanistan, mobilizing 10% of our population as soldiers to go to WWII (more than any other ally) and volunteering to go to Vietnam --- IOW, in spite of the bleeding obvious you decide we have a 'pacifist nature.'

You're an idiot. Plain and simple.

Personal attack. Personal attack.

Canada was in WWII before the US. You were pissed off when we did not commit when you did back then. Since then Canada has become a very different country. Yes you do have a pacifist nature in the present. Switzerland does also, but they do not have governmental supported agent like the CBC making potshots.

As far as Canadians in A, I said I was, and am surprised they went there given CAnada's pacifist nature.

[killjoy]

Canada was in WWII before the US. You were pissed off when we did not commit when you did back then.

Again you ignore what was said and try and argue something that was not said.

I think that calls for another review:

-You said you were unaware that Canadian troops were overseas then try and claim you knew they were in Afghanistan.

-You thought we only had small arms.

-You call us pacifists despite the self-evident fact that we aren't, (Afghanistan – which you didn’t know about, WWI, WWII [10% of our population – more than any other ally], Korea and on and on). That's called evidence boy, and it'll always trump simply repeating BS over and over again.

Anytime you're ready to argue what is said instead of what you wish was said just let me know, k?

Again please explain the logic behind your contention we have a 'pacifist nature' when we've engaged in practically every conflict you have. There isn't any logic to it. Just because you repeat BS over and over and over again dispite all evidence to the contrary will not make it true....it's evidence of your weak mind.

It always amazes me how someone can be wrong about 40 things and still be so convinced they're right about number 41.

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[ft.niagara]

Canada was in WWII before the US. You were pissed off when we did not commit when you did back then.

Again you ignore what was said and try and argue something that was not said.

I think that calls for another review:

-You said you were unaware that Canadian troops were overseas then try and claim you knew they were in Afghanistan.

-You thought we only had small arms.

-You call us pacifists despite the self-evident fact that we aren't, (Afghanistan – which you didn’t know about, WWI, WWII [10% of our population – more than any other ally], Korea and on and on).

Anytime you're ready to argue what is said instead of what you wish was said just let me know, k?

Again please explain the logic behind your contention we have a 'pacifist nature' when we've engaged in practically every conflict you have. There isn't any logic to it.

1. You insist on calling me an idiot. Not good. I have not done such to you.

2. I checked out your link and I appreciate your position, THEN.

3. You refuse to read my words which said SURPRISED, I believe.

4. I have no idea what weaponry you fellows have, but your government, like many has NOT had to invest in military equipment, because it does not have to, and it knows it. Any idiot knows that.

5. I call you a pacifist nation because YOU ARE. You are a very different country than the 40s, 50s. No longer could your country be mobilized for a major conflict. Face it.

6. As far as arguing with you, I have my opinion and you have yours. Soon I will go into another two year hibernation, and things will return to normal for you.

[killjoy]

You insist on calling me an idiot. Not good. I have not done such to you.

-I'm sorry but anytime someone's going to talk on and on about something they know nothing about they're an idiot.

-When someone contends something that is self-evidently untrue, they're an idiot.

-When someone is easily proven wrong about a number of things about a particular subject matter and refuse to re-evaluate their position, that's called being an idiot.

-Calling someone a pacifist over and over again when it's self-evident they aren't (Afghanistan, bombing and sniping in Yugoslavia, Somalia – not just the 50’s and 40’s dude) is idiotic.

Truth is one day you heard Rush or Coutier or some other clown call Canadians Pacifists and that was good enough for you. So much less effort required in adopting another idiots opinion instead of making your own the hard way.

It take no pleasure in it, I simply call it the way I see it. In fact you’re the first poster here I’ve ever called an idiot. Congratulations.

By all means: continue with your idiocy.

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[ft.niagara]

By all means: continue with your idiocy.

So much for Canadian civility.

[killjoy]

I'm doing you nothing more than a service, sir. Most would have to pay for this level of education in one hour.

So much for Canadian civility.

So that's what? About a dozen misguided myths we've managed to clear up for you? It also makes one stereotype of your own that you've managed to reinforce. That's progress.

You're welcome and "Tank-Q! Kym agin!"

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[August1991]

Do you know what an extradition treaty is and it's mechanics? No obviously you don't so why not shut up and quit while you're ahead. So far in the past 10 posts you've lied, displayed your complete ignorance and lack of any knowledge on a topic you're determined to convince us you know something about.

Killjoy, tone it down. Only the moderator can tell someone to shut up with any chance of success.

-Calling someone a pacifist over and over again when it's self-evident they aren't (Afghanistan, bombing and sniping in Yugoslavia, Somalia – not just the 50’s and 40’s dude) is idiotic.

Arguably, we are starting to pull our weight now but we didn't in the recent past. It is not wrong to claim that Canada got on the bus but didn't buy a ticket. Trudeau consistently cut defence expenditures during the Cold War. Someone defeated the Soviets and it wasn't Canada.

In fact, if all things were equal and Canada ran identical foreign policies and had identical history in terms of war vs peacekeeping etc. with the US, then we would have more threats because we would be the weak link to be exploited in getting to the US.

FTA

Good one, counsellor!

[ft.niagara]

I'm doing you nothing more than a service, sir. Most would have to pay for this level of education in one hour.

No Mr. KillJoy, you are the idiot. You have some romantic view of Canada as the defender of free world. It has long since degenerated into a bickering group, appendaged to the US, but disliking it, and enjoying its perceived position as the moral compass of North America. No longer would it be first to battle, and as indicated above, the know it all attitude is obvious.

[jdobbin]

Arguably, we are starting to pull our weight now but we didn't in the recent past. It is not wrong to claim that Canada got on the bus but didn't buy a ticket. Trudeau consistently cut defence expenditures during the Cold War. Someone defeated the Soviets and it wasn't Canada.

Taking credit for defeating the Soviets has been one thing that Republicans have been patting themselves on the back for some time.

It was the Communist system itself that began to crumble under its own weight. And it was Gorbachev who took them in a different direction.

Canada has a lot to answer for for cutting Defence spending but there wasn't a fight or a peackeeping mission where the country wasn't pulling its weight.

[killjoy]

Argus

Arguably, we are starting to pull our weight now but we didn't in the recent past. It is not wrong to claim that Canada got on the bus but didn't buy a ticket. Trudeau consistently cut defense expenditures during the Cold War. Someone defeated the Soviets and it wasn't Canada.

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Canada’s pacifist nature.

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Switzerland does also, but they do not have governmental supported agent like the CBC making potshots.

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That's what I argued Argus, nothing more. Why are you arguing with me?

You be nice. My time is valuable. I'm not like you people. I'm loved. ( )

He came here to troll and he deserves to run away with his tail between his legs. I don't care if I've hurt our tourism.

We're dying. He's sitting there insulting.

Note to the mods: unlike most if you have a sincere discomfort over the way I've treated our guest, the simplest of requests will gain my immediate compliance.

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[Figleaf]

You are under the protection of the US and you should be thankfull about it.

Crap.

The US defends North America for its own reasons, not out of generosity. If it really cared about Canada's interests it wouldn't dispute our arctic territorial sovereignty.

[killjoy]

You have some romantic view of Canada as the defender of free world.

When did I say that? Again you argue what you wish I said instead of what I did say, or even what you said.

You've been continually wrong from our first exchange and it was the easiest thing in the world to prove it. I do not have a "romantic view of Canada as the defender of free world". I never said anything near that but it is so typical of guys like you to come one and spout off a dozen or so easily dismissed gems of crap and then pout about it and instead of stand up and learn something decide they're the one's being insulted and start making even more crap up!

You simply couldn’t carry on a conversation like this face-to-face in the real world. The fact that one is so completely incorrect would be evident on one’s face and they simply couldn’t carry on with the response above. They’d say something like, “Yeah ok, but what about this…” or the like.

Unbelievable!

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[August1991]

That's what I argued Argus, nothing more. Why are you arguing with me?

Argus? August?

Who cares! "My time is valuable. They're all the same anyway... Let God sort it out."

The US defends North America for its own reasons, not out of generosity. If it really cared about Canada's interests it wouldn't dispute our arctic territorial sovereignty.

I agree Figleaf. But that was my point about the bus ticket.

The US is paying for the bus trip for its own interests. We tag along because the bus is going anyway and there's an empty seat.

But is it fair that we do that?

[ft.niagara]

My time is valuable. I'm not like you people. I'm loved. ( )

he deserves to run away with his tail between his legs.

Your time is valuable. So is mine. This I do for relaxation. I am not on the clock, and neither are you.

Run from YOU, hehehe.

As far as being loved, maybe by your wife.