blackbird Posted November 28, 2025 Report Posted November 28, 2025 (edited) The mindset of the government in Quebec seems to be an inherited mindset from the Dark Ages of the Holy Roman Inquisition. That was a long period in history that lasted around five centuries when the state and church acted together to stamp out all opposition or even questioning of the dominant religion which was Roman Catholicism. Anybody who did not go along with Rome or did not participate in it was a target of the Inquisition, which meant torture, imprisonment, or death. The Jews were a major target as were some minority religious groups. Of course they won't go that far in the present law in Quebec, but basic freedom of religion will be under attack as it has at times in the history of Quebec. Even though the Quebec government claims to be acting to enforce secularism, it is really stamping out anything contrary to the dominant religion of Quebec, which is Roman Catholicism. This Quebec government in the legislature has a huge crucifix in the legislature which they do not wish to remove and if you asked each of them, most would likely admit that they are Roman Catholics. So now they are bringing in laws that mainly target other practicing religions in Quebec. quote Jean-François Roberge, Quebec's minister responsible for secularism, said the bill is part of the government's longstanding goal of ensuring the "religious neutrality of the state" and "equality for all citizens." "We think that when the state is neutral, Quebecers are free," Roberge said at a news conference Thursday. Roberge rejected a suggestion from a reporter that religious minorities were unfairly targeted with Bill 9. "We have the same rules applying to everyone," he said. The proposed changes include: Banning subsidized daycare and private school workers from wearing religious symbols, such as a hijab or kippa (with a clause exempting those already in their position). Prohibiting public institutions, such as hospitals, from only offering food based on a religious tradition, such as halal or kosher meals. Roberge said other meals would need to be offered as well. Phasing out public subsidies for religious private schools that select students or staff based on religious affiliation, or that teach religious content. (NOTE: Catholic schools in Quebec will not be touched or defunded but other religious schools will see their funding phased out) Banning prayer spaces in public institutions including universities, as well as group prayers in public spaces such as parks without municipal authorization. Universities are "not a temple or a church," Roberge said. Expanding the requirement to have an uncovered face at all times to anyone present in a public education setting. The bill also invokes the notwithstanding clause pre-emptively, shielding it from challenges under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. unquote Quebec's new secularism bill targets daycare workers, prayer spaces and religious meals This of course is a denial of freedom of religion which is guaranteed under the Charter of Rights. But we know where this is coming from. It is a deeply ingrained mentality in Romanism to eliminate all other religious practices and beliefs. Catholic schools will not be defunded either. In a way it is totalitarianism and does not bode well for freedom in general in Quebec. Edited November 28, 2025 by blackbird Quote
John Stone Posted November 28, 2025 Report Posted November 28, 2025 3 hours ago, blackbird said: The mindset of the government in Quebec seems to be an inherited mindset from the Dark Ages of the Holy Roman Inquisition. That was a long period in history that lasted around five centuries when the state and church acted together to stamp out all opposition or even questioning of the dominant religion which was Roman Catholicism. Anybody who did not go along with Rome or did not participate in it was a target of the Inquisition, which meant torture, imprisonment, or death. The Jews were a major target as were some minority religious groups. Of course they won't go that far in the present law in Quebec, but basic freedom of religion will be under attack as it has at times in the history of Quebec. Even though the Quebec government claims to be acting to enforce secularism, it is really stamping out anything contrary to the dominant religion of Quebec, which is Roman Catholicism. This Quebec government in the legislature has a huge crucifix in the legislature which they do not wish to remove and if you asked each of them, most would likely admit that they are Roman Catholics. So now they are bringing in laws that mainly target other practicing religions in Quebec. quote Jean-François Roberge, Quebec's minister responsible for secularism, said the bill is part of the government's longstanding goal of ensuring the "religious neutrality of the state" and "equality for all citizens." "We think that when the state is neutral, Quebecers are free," Roberge said at a news conference Thursday. Roberge rejected a suggestion from a reporter that religious minorities were unfairly targeted with Bill 9. "We have the same rules applying to everyone," he said. The proposed changes include: Banning subsidized daycare and private school workers from wearing religious symbols, such as a hijab or kippa (with a clause exempting those already in their position). Prohibiting public institutions, such as hospitals, from only offering food based on a religious tradition, such as halal or kosher meals. Roberge said other meals would need to be offered as well. Phasing out public subsidies for religious private schools that select students or staff based on religious affiliation, or that teach religious content. (NOTE: Catholic schools in Quebec will not be touched or defunded but other religious schools will see their funding phased out) Banning prayer spaces in public institutions including universities, as well as group prayers in public spaces such as parks without municipal authorization. Universities are "not a temple or a church," Roberge said. Expanding the requirement to have an uncovered face at all times to anyone present in a public education setting. The bill also invokes the notwithstanding clause pre-emptively, shielding it from challenges under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. unquote Quebec's new secularism bill targets daycare workers, prayer spaces and religious meals This of course is a denial of freedom of religion which is guaranteed under the Charter of Rights. But we know where this is coming from. It is a deeply ingrained mentality in Romanism to eliminate all other religious practices and beliefs. Catholic schools will not be defunded either. In a way it is totalitarianism and does not bode well for freedom in general in Quebec. The rumor is that a FATWA has been issued. Quote
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