Harper scrapping Kyoto

[betsy]

"BARRIE, ONT. - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper reaffirmed a past pledge Wednesday that his government would scrap the Kyoto protocol on climate change and invest the money into other initiatives.

Dr. Ken Green, an environmental scientist with the Fraser Institute sides with Harper saying more research needs to be done on global warming.

Harper wants Canada to focus on smog-causing industrial pollutants promising his government would pass a new clean air bill by 2010 that would include mandatory limits on emission, but provided few details on how that would be achieved.

"Now is the time for federal leadership to ensure that targets for smog-causing pollutants are reached," Harper said."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/...yoto040609.html

"The researcher suggests that atmospheric carbon dioxide -- often thought of as a key "greenhouse gas" -- is not the cause of global warming."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10615071248.htm

The environmentalists and liberals are scare-mongering in pushing for another boondagle that could cause billions of dollars wasted on something that is not yet factual.

Global warming, melting of ice caps....could just be earth simply going through its natural cycle.

[Pliny]

"BARRIE, ONT. - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper reaffirmed a past pledge Wednesday that his government would scrap the Kyoto protocol on climate change and invest the money into other initiatives.

Dr. Ken Green, an environmental scientist with the Fraser Institute sides with Harper saying more research needs to be done on global warming.

Harper wants Canada to focus on smog-causing industrial pollutants promising his government would pass a new clean air bill by 2010 that would include mandatory limits on emission, but provided few details on how that would be achieved.

"Now is the time for federal leadership to ensure that targets for smog-causing pollutants are reached," Harper said."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/...yoto040609.html

"The researcher suggests that atmospheric carbon dioxide -- often thought of as a key "greenhouse gas" -- is not the cause of global warming."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10615071248.htm

The environmentalists and liberals are scare-mongering in pushing for another boondagle that could cause billions of dollars wasted on something that is not yet factual.

Global warming, melting of ice caps....could just be earth simply going through its natural cycle.

Hi betsy,

That is great news. The Kyoto Accord was designed under the direction of Maurice Strong. I recently read an interview with him done by the Western Standard and can only conclude from what he says that his policies and directives would be very harmful to humanity.

If you despise humanity I suppose you would support him and the Kyoto Accord.

Seems like Harper has something on the ball.

[Technocrat]

"BARRIE, ONT. - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper reaffirmed a past pledge Wednesday that his government would scrap the Kyoto protocol on climate change and invest the money into other initiatives.

Dr. Ken Green, an environmental scientist with the Fraser Institute sides with Harper saying more research needs to be done on global warming.

Harper wants Canada to focus on smog-causing industrial pollutants promising his government would pass a new clean air bill by 2010 that would include mandatory limits on emission, but provided few details on how that would be achieved.

"Now is the time for federal leadership to ensure that targets for smog-causing pollutants are reached," Harper said."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/...yoto040609.html

"The researcher suggests that atmospheric carbon dioxide -- often thought of as a key "greenhouse gas" -- is not the cause of global warming."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10615071248.htm

The environmentalists and liberals are scare-mongering in pushing for another boondagle that could cause billions of dollars wasted on something that is not yet factual.

Global warming, melting of ice caps....could just be earth simply going through its natural cycle.

Hi betsy,

That is great news. The Kyoto Accord was designed under the direction of Maurice Strong. I recently read an interview with him done by the Western Standard and can only conclude from what he says that his policies and directives would be very harmful to humanity.

If you despise humanity I suppose you would support him and the Kyoto Accord.

Seems like Harper has something on the ball.

I guess i despise humanity. What a silly comment.

I agree that global warming might not be caused by us. However there is a good chance that our actions are contributing to climate change. Wouldn't it make sense to err on the side of caution, and try something early, rather then wait and twiddle our thumbs.

[betsy]

I agree that global warming might not be caused by us. However there is a good chance that our actions are contributing to climate change. Wouldn't it make sense to err on the side of caution, and try something early, rather then wait and twiddle our thumbs.

Well, I see it more practical to clear the air we breathe of pollutants. We already see the effects in the rising cases of asthma and other respiratory diseases that may be caused by it.

Why should we waste our billions on something that doesn't really have any legs to stand on...when we can use the money on something that will have a realistic positive effect?

Besides, Harper government are looking for alternatives. Earth had been producing tons of carbon for eons (forest fires)...I'm sure it's not a do-or-die-it's-now-or-never scenario that the environmental activists and vote-seeking politicians want us to believe. They're scare-mongering. They're the latest version of Doom-sayers.

Here's an interesting read.

"Natural Global Warming

September 4, 2003

by Dennis T. Avery

For a decade, the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has pushed the theory of fierce man-made global warming, supposedly caused by burning fossil fuels. It would theoretically drive temperatures up as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit. The IPCC wants American to join the Kyoto Protocol, quickly doubling U.S. energy prices, without making much impact on the warming. (Kyoto would be a 'down payment' on much more severe energy cutbacks.)

However, most of the earth's recent warming occurred before 1940, and thus before much greenhouse gas was released by human factories and cars. The headlines scream that recent temperatures are "the highest ever recorded"—but the records go back only to 1860, during the world's recovery from the Little Ice Age.

During Bush's term, scientists delving into the earth's history have found quite a different global warming: an ancient, natural, 1500-year warming-cooling cycle driven by a known cycle in the magnetic activity of the sun.

Written history tells us the Medieval Warming, a mild-weather period from the 11th to 13th centuries, with temperatures 1 to 3 degrees F. warmer than today. It was followed by the Little Ice Age, with temperatures 2 to 4 degrees F. lower, harsh storms, encroaching glaciers, and crop-failure famines. History also records an earlier Roman warming, it too followed by a mini-ice age.

http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuseaction...details&id=3026

If the UN's involved, I can't help but be wary....especially when it comes to "more money."

[mcqueen625]

"BARRIE, ONT. - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper reaffirmed a past pledge Wednesday that his government would scrap the Kyoto protocol on climate change and invest the money into other initiatives.

Dr. Ken Green, an environmental scientist with the Fraser Institute sides with Harper saying more research needs to be done on global warming.

Harper wants Canada to focus on smog-causing industrial pollutants promising his government would pass a new clean air bill by 2010 that would include mandatory limits on emission, but provided few details on how that would be achieved.

"Now is the time for federal leadership to ensure that targets for smog-causing pollutants are reached," Harper said."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/...yoto040609.html

"The researcher suggests that atmospheric carbon dioxide -- often thought of as a key "greenhouse gas" -- is not the cause of global warming."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10615071248.htm

The environmentalists and liberals are scare-mongering in pushing for another boondagle that could cause billions of dollars wasted on something that is not yet factual.

Global warming, melting of ice caps....could just be earth simply going through its natural cycle.

Although the Kyoto Accord was a good idea initially it was ill conceived since our federal and provincial governments have allowed pollution levels to actually increase by approximately 30 % since that accord was signed, thus making it impossible for Canada to reach the targets agreed to by the Chretian Liberal's. Don't get me wrong because it scares me to death whenever anyone from either the Frazer Institute or C.D. Howe Institutes suggests is in our best interests. Both of these groups are nothing but lobby groups for multinations corporations, so for them to suggest something is good for us is an oxymoron. What they really mean is that is is good for 'Big Business," Most times what is good for the multinationals is not in the least bit good for the people of any country, because their whole reason for being is to proyect and increase profits for the multinationals and their shareholders.

[Montgomery Burns]

Oh my. Mr Fancy Pants™ has his knickers in a knot and is demanding Rona Ambrose resign:

OTTAWA (CP) - The federal Liberals are demanding Environment Minister Rona Ambrose recall Canada’s delegation from Bonn after they said she deliberately tried to “undermine” the Kyoto protocol. And Opposition environment critic Scott Brison says Ambrose herself should resign as chair at the Conference of the Parties because of what he calls “her covert attempts to sabotage the development of a binding international consensus on global warming.”

“This is not only outrageous, it is dangerously duplicitous,” Brison said in a statement Saturday.

*Insert laugh track*

But as usual, when it comes to liberals, the real reason why Mr Fancy Pants™ is foaming at the mouth is this:

"From gutting federal climate change programs, to repeating defeatist and absurd rhetoric fashioned by American pollsters, to misrepresenting the protocol itself, this government is applying Bush’s well-worn anti-Kyoto tactics,” said Brison.

“And now, by extending these tactics in an effort to derail the process from within, Ms. Ambrose even appears to be pushing the U.S. agenda at Bonn.”

And Mr Fancy Pants' statements are not outrageous and dangerously duplicitous.

As Ann Coulter so famously quipped:

Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like Liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now.

[betsy]

Oh my. Mr Fancy Pants™ has his knickers in a knot and is demanding Rona Ambrose resign:

OTTAWA (CP) - The federal Liberals are demanding Environment Minister Rona Ambrose recall Canada’s delegation from Bonn after they said she deliberately tried to “undermine” the Kyoto protocol. And Opposition environment critic Scott Brison says Ambrose herself should resign as chair at the Conference of the Parties because of what he calls “her covert attempts to sabotage the development of a binding international consensus on global warming.”

“This is not only outrageous, it is dangerously duplicitous,” Brison said in a statement Saturday.

*Insert laugh track*

But as usual, when it comes to liberals, the real reason why Mr Fancy Pants™ is foaming at the mouth is this:

"From gutting federal climate change programs, to repeating defeatist and absurd rhetoric fashioned by American pollsters, to misrepresenting the protocol itself, this government is applying Bush’s well-worn anti-Kyoto tactics,” said Brison.

“And now, by extending these tactics in an effort to derail the process from within, Ms. Ambrose even appears to be pushing the U.S. agenda at Bonn.”

And Mr Fancy Pants' statements are not outrageous and dangerously duplicitous.

You should've seen Jane Taber tried to trip Rona Ambrose on Question Period. Jane's partisanship had clearly shown. Some of these media are blindly spewing the same lines as the party. She smugly announced the interview with Ambrose indicating she placed the Minister on the hot seat.....and yet all she did was get excited (practically telling Ambrose she's a hypocrite for still going to the discussion table), and got Ambrose to clarify on issues. In the end, it was Ambrose who had a smug look as she patiently explained to Jane, who ended up looking ignorant.

And yes, it's anti-Americanism that's got them foaming in the mouth.

[Nocrap]

Oh my. Mr Fancy Pants™ has his knickers in a knot and is demanding Rona Ambrose resign:

OTTAWA (CP) - The federal Liberals are demanding Environment Minister Rona Ambrose recall Canada’s delegation from Bonn after they said she deliberately tried to “undermine” the Kyoto protocol. And Opposition environment critic Scott Brison says Ambrose herself should resign as chair at the Conference of the Parties because of what he calls “her covert attempts to sabotage the development of a binding international consensus on global warming.”

“This is not only outrageous, it is dangerously duplicitous,” Brison said in a statement Saturday.

*Insert laugh track*

But as usual, when it comes to liberals, the real reason why Mr Fancy Pants™ is foaming at the mouth is this:

"From gutting federal climate change programs, to repeating defeatist and absurd rhetoric fashioned by American pollsters, to misrepresenting the protocol itself, this government is applying Bush’s well-worn anti-Kyoto tactics,” said Brison.

“And now, by extending these tactics in an effort to derail the process from within, Ms. Ambrose even appears to be pushing the U.S. agenda at Bonn.”

And Mr Fancy Pants' statements are not outrageous and dangerously duplicitous.

As Ann Coulter so famously quipped:

Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like Liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now.

This Ann Coulter quote to defend scrapping Kyoto is pretty extreme, don't you think? Painting anyone concerned with the environment as somehow being unpatriotic supporters of terrorism? What the heck?

[Nocrap]

"BARRIE, ONT. - Conservative Leader Stephen Harper reaffirmed a past pledge Wednesday that his government would scrap the Kyoto protocol on climate change and invest the money into other initiatives.

Dr. Ken Green, an environmental scientist with the Fraser Institute sides with Harper saying more research needs to be done on global warming.

Harper wants Canada to focus on smog-causing industrial pollutants promising his government would pass a new clean air bill by 2010 that would include mandatory limits on emission, but provided few details on how that would be achieved.

"Now is the time for federal leadership to ensure that targets for smog-causing pollutants are reached," Harper said."

http://www.cbc.ca/story/election/national/...yoto040609.html

"The researcher suggests that atmospheric carbon dioxide -- often thought of as a key "greenhouse gas" -- is not the cause of global warming."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/...10615071248.htm

The environmentalists and liberals are scare-mongering in pushing for another boondagle that could cause billions of dollars wasted on something that is not yet factual.

Global warming, melting of ice caps....could just be earth simply going through its natural cycle.

Oh gee. The Fraser Institute, huh? That makes it so credible.

[Canuck E Stan]

Oh gee. The Fraser Institute, huh? That makes it so credible.

The Liberal government for all those years in power and did-nothing about Kyoto and all the other programs that they never got beyond the talk, and now defend them as if they did happen. . . . . that is . . . .in-credible.

[margrace]

Off subject but don't you just love quotes from Ann Coulter

" We whould invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilous about locating and punishing only Hilter and his top officers. We carpet bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's was. and this is war.'

"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."

"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Chirstianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of "kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed"

Yes very good person to use as an authority.

[scribblet]

Oh my. Mr Fancy Pants™ has his knickers in a knot and is demanding Rona Ambrose

You should've seen Jane Taber tried to trip Rona Ambrose on Question Period. Jane's partisanship had clearly shown. Some of these media are blindly spewing the same lines as the party. She smugly announced the interview with Ambrose indicating she placed the Minister on the hot seat.....and yet all she did was get excited (practically telling Ambrose she's a hypocrite for still going to the discussion table), and got Ambrose to clarify on issues. In the end, it was Ambrose who had a smug look as she patiently explained to Jane, who ended up looking ignorant.

And yes, it's anti-Americanism that's got them foaming in the mouth.

LOL, right along with anything from the Fraser Institute, I suppose nothings credible unless it comes from the CBC or the Red Star.

I think we should be more worried about the covert attempts by the liberals to undermine the gov't and grab back the power they so crave.

http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2006/...591652-sun.html

Mon, May 22, 2006

Tories to roll out fuel plan

By ALAN FINDLAY, PARLIAMENTARY BUREAU

The Tory government is expected to announce plans tomorrow requiring that all Canadian gasoline contain 5% renewables, such as ethanol and biodiesel, within four years.

Environment Minister Rona Ambrose, Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn and Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl are scheduled to meet with officials from several provinces in Regina tomorrow to discuss, among other things, the Conservatives' renewables plan and how to achieve the standard by 2010.

Ambrose told reporters last Friday she is focused on the issue as a first step toward cleaning up Canada's air.

[scribblet]

Adamson, Rondi: The Harper government has not yet revealed much about its "made-in-Canada" plan for the environment, other than a proposal to subsidize transit passes. But the fact that it has been willing to admit, via Environment Minister Rona Ambrose, the fecklessness of Canada trying to reach its Kyoto targets is a powerful indicator that it is more concerned with substance than with putting on a good international show. Ms. Ambrose isn't heroic for dispelling some of our national myths. ... Environmental groups and politicians have called on Ms. Ambrose to resign from chairing the UN negotiations on climate change, because of those comments. Why? Would it have been better for her to make empty promises? According to some, yes. ... Whether the Liberals were misleading us about Kyoto, or just plain stupid, doesn't matter. They talked and accomplished nothing. The evidence suggests that Mr. Harper is being realistic. So far, however, the Harper government has simply abandoned Kyoto, de facto, by slashing funding for numerous programs. I would prefer Mr. Harper continue what he has started. He can show us how serious he is about tackling environmental problems, by formally withdrawing Canada from Kyoto ...this from the Toronto Star yesterday, page A16