Paying the Chinese

[Biblio Bibuli]

The bloody idiots have decided to give compensation to the Chinese for their head tax. People who VOLUNTARILY came to this country... looking for Gold Mountain. Families all chipped in & saved to get over one guy because they knew he'd be able to send back money & support the entire family. It was their ticket to wealth. AND THEY WERE RIGHT. The progeny of Grandpa who came over here are far wealthier than those who stayed in China, It was AN INVESTMENT that paid off ... in spades.

Now it's a totally different story for the poor black folks. There they were, happily living in Africa, and people just grabbed them, took them to various countries & turned them into slaves. THAT was horrible. And if anyone should get compensation the descendents of Africans taken into slavery should.

But VOLUNTARY immigration? Well .... Kennedy's grandparents had to face signs saying "Micks & Harps need not apply". Jews sat on boats in harbours because no one in North America wanted the "dirty Jews". There were Hunky's & DP's & Wops & our grandmothers weren't considered full human beings & couldn't vote.

Times were different. Essentially if you weren't a male of British stock ... you weren't considered to be a proper human being.

Let's compensate EVERYONE! Bring on the bucks!! I've picked out my condo in Hawaii!!!

[Riverwind]

It was their ticket to wealth. AND THEY WERE RIGHT. The progeny of Grandpa who came over here are far wealthier than those who stayed in China, It was AN INVESTMENT that paid off ... in spades.

You miss the point. This is not about righting past wrongs - it is about buying votes from people in a fairly affluent ethinic group.

[scribblet]

The bloody idiots have decided to give compensation to the Chinese for their head tax. People who VOLUNTARILY came to this country... looking for Gold Mountain. Families all chipped in & saved to get over one guy because they knew he'd be able to send back money & support the entire family. It was their ticket to wealth. AND THEY WERE RIGHT. The progeny of Grandpa who came over here are far wealthier than those who stayed in China, It was AN INVESTMENT that paid off ... in spades.

Now it's a totally different story for the poor black folks. There they were, happily living in Africa, and people just grabbed them, took them to various countries & turned them into slaves. THAT was horrible. And if anyone should get compensation the descendents of Africans taken into slavery should.

But VOLUNTARY immigration? Well .... Kennedy's grandparents had to face signs saying "Micks & Harps need not apply". Jews sat on boats in harbours because no one in North America wanted the "dirty Jews". There were Hunky's & DP's & Wops & our grandmothers weren't considered full human beings & couldn't vote.

Times were different. Essentially if you weren't a male of British stock ... you weren't considered to be a proper human being.

Let's compensate EVERYONE! Bring on the bucks!! I've picked out my condo in Hawaii!!!

Agreed, its nonsense, I'm surprised that Harper is doing this, do you have a link to that? I'll be writing to them ASAP.

[August1991]

You miss the point. This is not about righting past wrongs - it is about buying votes from people in a fairly affluent ethinic group.

Good point.

[geoffrey]

An apology isn't unwarrented, to the community for the government's disrespect of human rights.

Now paying people that made the choice to come to Canada, thats a whole different issue. Surviving head tax payers should have their money refunded (there can't be many alive), but some concept that their family has a debt owed by the government is silly.

I, however, don't want to live in a country that was built on dollars that were wrongly taken. So we should refund the payments to those still surviving, adjusted for inflation.

[August1991]

I, however, don't want to live in a country that was built on dollars that were wrongly taken. So we should refund the payments to those still surviving, adjusted for inflation.

If our governments were to open up seriously all the cases of suspected wrongful payments in the past, there would be no end of potential litigants.

And don't forget what is involved here. We are discussing transferring a claim on current wealth from one person to another.

If we go down this road, in the end, no one would be working or producing anything because everyone would be busy making claims and counterclaims against everyone else.

It is not too far wrong to say that poor countries in the world are poor because that is exactly what the people in those countries do to one another.

[Biblio Bibuli]

An apology isn't unwarrented, to the community for the government's disrespect of human rights.

Now paying people that made the choice to come to Canada, thats a whole different issue. Surviving head tax payers should have their money refunded (there can't be many alive), but some concept that their family has a debt owed by the government is silly.

I, however, don't want to live in a country that was built on dollars that were wrongly taken. So we should refund the payments to those still surviving, adjusted for inflation.

Disagree.

They made a hefty profit on their investment. I say we tax it.

But seriously, should we annul all elections that didn't include the vote of women, Chinese, Aboriginals & cancel all laws enacted during those illegal regimes?

Should we pay off the snakeheads bringing in illegal immigrants now if we grant them refugee status?

And you live in a country that was wrongly taken period ... if you listen to our native folks. Ready to get back on the boat & go "home"?

How much money is "enough" for that particular wrong?

Too many questions & not enough money.

[Nocrap]

An apology isn't unwarrented, to the community for the government's disrespect of human rights.

Now paying people that made the choice to come to Canada, thats a whole different issue. Surviving head tax payers should have their money refunded (there can't be many alive), but some concept that their family has a debt owed by the government is silly.

I, however, don't want to live in a country that was built on dollars that were wrongly taken. So we should refund the payments to those still surviving, adjusted for inflation.

Disagree.

They made a hefty profit on their investment. I say we tax it.

But seriously, should we annul all elections that didn't include the vote of women, Chinese, Aboriginals & cancel all laws enacted during those illegal regimes?

Should we pay off the snakeheads bringing in illegal immigrants now if we grant them refugee status?

And you live in a country that was wrongly taken period ... if you listen to our native folks. Ready to get back on the boat & go "home"?

How much money is "enough" for that particular wrong?

Too many questions & not enough money.

What about the Acadians? My ancestors had their lands stolen. When can I expect my cheque in the mail?

[quinton]

Nocrap, unfortunately private land ownership is a necessary evil of overpopulation.

I think Canadians have gone mad to let in so many immigrants.

Resources per capita is going to go way down.

I seriously heard some nutbag Liberal named Deb Mathews say that:

"Canada needs to work on making itself more attractive to lure in more immigrants from China and India to bolster economic growth"

There is a serious downside to this status quo belief -- the natural environment here in Canada will suffer.

[Biblio Bibuli]

Agreed, its nonsense, I'm surprised that Harper is doing this, do you have a link to that? I'll be writing to them ASAP.

Give 'em hell for me too.

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...9c-a79d9959a407