$1-million homes

[Leafless]

Renegade

You wrote- " You draw all kinds of radical racial conclusions, and provide zero evidence to back your claims other than your say so."

Radical racial conclusions????

The only racial conclusions I harbour is that contrary to government propaganda different cultural lifestyles create and promote hate and animosity and competiton to prove one is more important or viable than the other or more worthy of some type of political attention. i.e.- English vs. French, Christianity vs. Islam, heterosexuals vs. homosexuals and a whole host of other adverse cultural lifestyles including failure to understand western values, culture and traditons and even law of the land pertaining to even what constitutes a crime or criminal offense. Police departments are faced with this single aspect as an example regularly with cultures in deep denial with allegations of 'cultural profiling' towards police trying to do their jobs.

Evidently you are not informed concerning evidence.

The media day after day highlites many stories and articles related to exactly what your claiming that Iam not supplying you with in the way of evidence. Editorial columns disect what we are talking about.

I don't have to supply what you describe as evidence as it is COMMON KNOWLEDGE to most informed Canadians concerning adverse cultural problems, distubances, mayhem and crime.

This is the West not some oppressed little country who disallow any information from reaching the public outside of it's dictatorial views.

[Renegade]

The only racial conclusions I harbour is that contrary to government propaganda different cultural lifestyles create and promote hate and animosity and competiton to prove one is more important or viable than the other or more worthy of some type of political attention. i.e.- English vs. French, Christianity vs. Islam, heterosexuals vs. homosexuals and a whole host of other adverse cultural lifestyles including failure to understand western values, culture and traditons and even law of the land pertaining to even what constitutes a crime or criminal offense. Police departments are faced with this single aspect as an example regularly with cultures in deep denial with allegations of 'cultural profiling' towards police trying to do their jobs.

Evidently you are not informed concerning evidence.

The media day after day highlites many stories and articles related to exactly what your claiming that Iam not supplying you with in the way of evidence. Editorial columns disect what we are talking about.

I was not disputing a conclusion that said there are cultural clashes in some cities in Canada. Living in the GTA I am well aware of that.

Let me quote some of what you have previously claimed:

These high priced homes are mainly being sold to wealthy foreigners (the only ones who can afford these places) and do indeed make many people rich.

It isn't Canadians buying these expensive homes it is foreigners who are also snapping up the $200,000 homes.

Do you have any evidence or statistics which prove this? So far all we have is your claim that you've walked around rich neighbourhoods and seen a lot of non-whites. Perhaps you think this is "COMMON KNOWLEDGE". If it is I challenge you to show me one newspaper article confirming this.

I live next door to Oakville. Statiistically Oakville has the highest average family income in Canada. I can tell you that the neighbourhoods I've seen are overwhelming white. Many 1 million+ homes changes hands, and they are being sold to buyers who are of varying racial backgrounds, however many of the buyers are white.

There is no shortage of lower priced houses in GTA. The buyers simply have to temper their expectations.

Frankly, if you think that the houses are overpriced, and that foreigners are buying overpriced houses, then you should be happy others are buying them, for when prices crash, it will be they who lose money.

What I detect in your statements is resentment and jealousy of people from other races who can afford houses which you cannot.

[Leafless]

Renegade

You wrote- " What I detect in your statements is resentment and jealousy of people of other races who can afford houses which I cannot."

At present I do not own my own home by choice.

The three previously ones I owned when I sold generated not a fortune, but a cool $500K.

What you don't detect is my loyality to Canada and my national pride associated with building Canada to what it is to-day.

I think it is a disgrace for Canadian society to sell out Canadian homes and properties and even provinces especially to new immigrants who never had nothing to do with the building and nourishing of Canada while the majority our younger Canadians can only dream about owning their own home or are no longer entitled to a COMMON CULTURE of the land.

Sign of the times.

I don't think so, as this is only a tempory stop gap solution as the country slowly self destructs.

[Riverwind]

The three previously ones I owned when I sold generated not a fortune, but a cool $500K.

In other words you have indirectly benefited from the high real estate prices created by immigration and now you seek to prevent others from realizing the same gains.

[BubberMiley]

Sounds to me like someone is mad because he doesn't have the skills to make enough money to buy a house.

[Drea]

I think it is a disgrace for Canadian society to sell out Canadian homes and properties and even provinces especially to new immigrants who never had nothing to do with the building and nourishing of Canada while the majority our younger Canadians can only dream about owning their own home or are no longer entitled to a COMMON CULTURE of the land.

Gee, do immigrants get their homes for free?

Do they get to purchase goods and services tax free?

No?

Then they are building and nourishing Canada.

Tough titty for you or your kids who didn't think forward enough to get a good education which would lead to a good paying career which would garner them the money to buy a home.

Move out here to the fringes of the Fraser Valley -- there's like maybe 10 Indian families and maybe 4 Oriental families; I think I've seen 2 black people in the 10 years I've lived here... Heck, it's whitey heaven!

And one can still purchase a home for under $200,000.

[Leafless]

Drea

You wrote- " Gee, do you think immigrants get their homes for free? Do they get to purchase goods and services tax free? No? Then they are building and nourishing Canada."

What they are doing is walking in on a dysfunctional established country and culture and taking over what most Canadians (or have a very hard time) can no longer afford to do.

This of course all caused by various levels of incompetent government.

Who gets screwed in all of this.

Home grown Canadians who built this country who have been defrauded out of the RIGHT to normal expected amenities in their own country.

Comical isn't it!

[Renegade]

I think it is a disgrace for Canadian society to sell out Canadian homes and properties and even provinces especially to new immigrants ...

So Leafless, you're telling me that when you sold your three previous houses you restricted the offers you would accept to "white Canadians", and if a higher offer came from an immigrant you would not accept it?

If you did restrict it to "whites only" it would be an act of sheer idiocy on your part, if you didn't then it is an act of sheer hypocrisy on your part now to condemn people for selling to immigrants. So are you an idiot or a hypocrite?

[Leafless]

Renegade

This has got nothing to do with White, Black or Yellow.

Immigration is one thing.

Mass or large scale imigration is another thing.

Laws should be made to restrict large movements of housing and property to a culture and race other than what the majority is in this country. Doing so DESTROYS the fabric of the country.

Are you advocating transforming Canada into a land dotted with cultural ghettos and or provinces.

I don't know a country in the world with that type of logic that would sit very well especially with Charter rights that encourage this type of conditon.

This almost sounds like implementing apartheid.

[Drea]

Drea

You wrote- " Gee, do you think immigrants get their homes for free? Do they get to purchase goods and services tax free? No? Then they are building and nourishing Canada."

What they are doing is walking in on a dysfunctional established country and culture and taking over what most Canadians (or have a very hard time) can no longer afford to do.

And why can "most Canadians" no longer afford to purchase a home?

Why can immigrants afford them?

This of course all caused by various levels of incompetent government.

Does gov't set real estate prices?

Who gets screwed in all of this.

Home grown Canadians who built this country who have been defrauded out of the RIGHT to normal expected amenities in their own country.

Comical isn't it!

How have home grown Canadians (I'm one) been "defrauded out the the RIGHT to normal expected amenities in their own country."?

You sound bitter because you can't afford a house and the guy who "just moved in" can.

Instead of being so bitter, you should pull up your own socks, get an education, get a good career and after a few years -- ba-da-bing, you should be able to afford a home!

I remember back in 1980 my step father (racist bastard that he is) would not sell our ranch to Indians (east). Even though they gave us the best offer.

My mom left him 3 years later and he had to sell it for less than the Indians had offered. LOL (and she dated an Indian man, not the one that made the offer btw -- what a gentleman he was!) We all laughed because it was such a slap in the face to my racist stepfather.

[Renegade]

Laws should be made to restrict large movements of housing and property to a culture and race other than what the majority is in this country. Doing so DESTROYS the fabric of the country.

In other words, you're saying let's sell housing only to whites to preserve the purity of our society. Gee, do you think maybe they should have had that policy before whites came to North America and forcibly took property from the majority native population?

I see you chose to ignore the question I put to you. Of course, I understand it is an uncomfortable question for you to answer.

Are you advocating transforming Canada into a land dotted with cultural ghettos and or provinces.

I'm advocating for a country where one's cultural background or race s not relevant to the rights they are assigned. If people of the same background want to cluster together in gettos, let them. Why not, whites do. If they want to buy overpriced houses, let them. I'd happily sell to anyone who would pay my price, black, brown, white or any other colour.

[Leafless]

Drea

Why don't you read previous posts before posting comments that were already addressed.

[Leafless]

Renegade

Again you are trying to imply racist notions by including 'White' in everthing that spews from your keyboard.

Is it my fault our society is predominately 'White' and I make reference to that fact?

Again the point is in reference to 'significant ethnic immigration' and handing them the keys to an existing successful established society overiding an existing financially stagnant population due to the incompetent actions of various levels of governments.

This is not immigrants fault but they are the medium used by government to cover their irreparable actions caused by government incompetency.

And you find it wrong that Canadians should complain because of this? To have ethnic culture invade our country and compete culturally?

Cultures are problamatic. Case in point English Canada vs. French Canada. Serious problems were avoided basically by forced government intervention to force the English to finance Quebec's cultural aspirations along with a Charter that discriminates aginst the English and advances that cultures ideologies even further into Canadian society.

To be truthfull Iam sick and tired of cultural malcontent and discrimination and am voicing my opinion that the government of this country erred badly to keep immigration 'White and English speaking' and failed Canadian society to steer society to where immigration is not required.

[Renegade]

Is it my fault our society is predominately 'White' and I make reference to that fact?

No it is not your fault that Canadian society is predominantly white. What is racist is to advocate a "keep it white" policy under the guise of protecting Canadian culture.

Again the point is in reference to 'significant ethnic immigration' and handing them the keys to an existing successful established society overiding an existing financially stagnant population due to the incompetent actions of various levels of governments.

Canada has had a policy welcoming immigrants for decades. That "successful established society" you refer to, was built in large part by the hard work, skills, and sometimes the wealth of immigrants. Now, I'm not discounting that the established population also contributed to its success, but to deny the part that immigrants played is sheer blindness.

This is not immigrants fault but they are the medium used by government to cover their irreparable actions caused by government incompetency.

And you find it wrong that Canadians should complain because of this? To have ethnic culture invade our country and compete culturally?

"invade"????? Leafless, these pople didn't invade, they were invited by the Canadian government. Most were not wealthy and made considerable sacrifices to come to Canada. They came here to better their life and in the process bettered the country. The Government that invited them, was a government established Canadians CHOSE through their electoral process. So if you are not happy with the outcome, blame your fellow Canadians.

To be truthfull Iam sick and tired of cultural malcontent and discrimination and am voicing my opinion that the government of this country erred badly to keep immigration 'White and English speaking' and failed Canadian society to steer society to where immigration is not required.

It is ironic that you are "sick and tired of cultural malcontent and discrimination", because virtually every one of your posts is dripping with it. Don't you even see a hint or racism in your statement above?

[Leafless]

Renegade

I don't have to agree to the concensus that high levels of ETHNIC IMMIGRATION is good for this country it is the government of this land that came to this harmful conclusion along with Charter changes without a national referendum.

No government is going to advocate civil war and must accept the previous governments binding policies and can only attempt or change change previous legislations.

Like I said previously Canadians were led down the garden path by initially a corrupt Liberal government unable to properly lay it's cultural cards on the table and is now paying the price.

No one is objecting to NORMAL levels of immigration and it is clear you do not understand the complexity of this situation nor the reasons of objection outside of your continual 'RACIST ACCUSATIONS.'

[Renegade]

I don't have to agree to the concensus that high levels of ETHNIC IMMIGRATION is good for this country it is the government of this land that came to this harmful conclusion along with Charter changes without a national referendum.

What exactly do you mean by ETHNIC IMMIGRATION? Is there any other kind of immigration which you do agree with which would be good for the country?

No government is going to advocate civil war and must accept the previous governments binding policies and can only attempt or change change previous legislations.

Like I said previously Canadians were led down the garden path by initially a corrupt Liberal government unable to properly lay it's cultural cards on the table and is now paying the price.

Care to guess which government set the highest level of immigration to Canada? Trudeau? Nope, guess again. Chretien? Nope. It was Brian Mulroney.

No one is objecting to NORMAL levels of immigration and it is clear you do not understand the complexity of this situation nor the reasons of objection outside of your continual 'RACIST ACCUSATIONS.'

I would understand the complexity if you presented a case and evidence. You have not. I happen to agree that we can reduce immigration levels, however we must take steps to compensate for our reliance on a growing population. My reasons for stabilizing immigration are vastly different than yours, and I certainly am not blaming immigrants and foreigners for driving up property prices. BTW, there is no reason for me to call your opinions racist, your posts do that job quite well.

[Leafless]

Renegade

The complexity I am talking about again stems from the troublesome Trudeau era and covers Trudeau's version of a 'just society' which centers on Quebec's place in society at the expense of the Canadian tax payer.

This carries on from a wanted bicultural society to a multi-cultural society but for all practical purposes primarily centered on a bi-cultural society and progressed out of a no choice situation to a multi-cultural society.

So the question of producing evidence in one area is impossible as a series of events is responsible for the situation where as Canadians are denied the infrastructure they built and nourished.

I have already indicated mixed cultures are problamatic and my preference to immigration is 'White and English speaking' and I have every right to these views just as you have to your anti-White views.

I think everthing as pretty well been covered and basically boils down to concerning this particular issue is 'personal opinion' in which we both totally disagree with one another and there is no sense in carring on very repetitous unproductive dialogue.