DUI_Offender Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Gaudreau and his younger brother were killed while riding their bikes along a rural New Jersey road, when a drunk driver ran them over. He was in his hometown to attend his younger sister's wedding, which was supposed to be taken place today. Gaudreau leaves behind a wife, 2 year old daughter, and 7 month old son. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 What a shame. Insanely talented player. I remember watching him while he played with Calgary. Glad they gave the man his flowers after he was traded in a touching tribute in his first game back: Rare breed. Superstar vibes, could singlehandedly change a game, yet humble enough to take the limited time he had, to give it to his fans. Very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 the car in front goes wide left to give the Gaudreau brothers plenty of room as we all do for cyclists with extra caution then the drunk driver passes on the right, running the Gaudreau brothers down that's a homicidal maniac by definition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 40 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: that's a homicidal maniac by definition Correct me if wrong, but the current charges I believe, would be vehicular homicide. I think the charges were looking like 10 years per cyclist. If am correct, I don't understand why its not life in prison. The sheer level of disdain for human life, warrants a harsh punishment. If he showed remorse, throw in a chance of parole after 25 years. Drunk driving should have harsher penalties. You chose to get behind the wheel. There should be consequences to match the level of carelessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: Correct me if wrong, but the current charges I believe, would be vehicular homicide. regardless of the law passing on the right in this manner is unforgivable, even if one is drunk as I say, this is the dictionary definition of a maniac, an extreme sociopath it's like when I was a boy, all sorts of people were driving drunk and stoned but that didn't mean that they were weaving in and out and passing on the right like this simply being drunk doesn't explain this level of recklessness Edited August 31 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: regardless of the law Its careless for the potential human life you could exterminate. Almost deliberate. Should have the fitting punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 Just now, Perspektiv said: Its careless for the potential human life you could exterminate. Almost deliberate. Should have the fitting punishment. well it's at the threshold of psychopath so reckless that it presents as a pathological lack of empathy for other people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 But yeah, passing on the right is essentially done selfishly on the basis of: "if anyone dies, they die" Main reason I won't bike unless the lane is segregated or simply use bike paths. Highly unlikely to encounter someone like this, but would prefer not to take chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: so reckless that it presents as a pathological lack of empathy for other people He's likely an alcoholic. I would be shocked if he wasn't. They are typically not known for their altruistic nature. Main reason their addictions tend to destroy relationships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: But yeah, passing on the right is essentially done selfishly on the basis of: "if anyone dies, they die" Main reason I won't bike unless the lane is segregated or simply use bike paths. Highly unlikely to encounter someone like this, but would prefer not to take chances. you have to go against all your driving instincts to pass on the right at speed as you say, even if only subconsciously, it smacks of deliberate murder Edited August 31 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: He's likely an alcoholic. but even in that context, that does not explain it as I say, when I was growing up, most people were alcoholics, and most people drove drunk but almost nobody tried to blow by on the right in that state that's a kind of mania which simply being drunk does not incite this presents as a homicidal road rage far beyond the effects of alcohol he's a raving lunatic weaving in and out in a fury drinking a six pack doesn't make the average person into that certainly alcohol is a contributing factor but this seems to be more about road rage than it is about alcoholism as such, I would assert this to be 2nd degree murder, flew into a rage and killed two people therein it's not different from drinking six beers at a bar then in a rage beating two people to death in the parking lot ; 2nd degree murder x 2 the murder weapon in this case is simply a Jeep Grand Cherokee in America, that would warrant two life sentences served consecutively tho in soft on crime Canada he would probably only get four years Edited August 31 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: you have to go against all your driving instincts to pass on the right at speed To me it shows intent to hit the cyclists. But not sure how that can be demonstrated legally. 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: it smacks of deliberate murder I mean we have all been there. But there is an internal brake in most of our minds which tell us that what we are about to do is crazy, and we stop ourselves. Most at best, tip toe past that line. The brake check. The side comment. The "you wanna go?!" repeated without throwing the initial strike. For someone to go from zero to 100 without a thought or provocation, is something I can't wrap my mind around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 26 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: I mean we have all been there. But there is an internal brake in most of our minds which tell us that what we are about to do is crazy, and we stop ourselves. Most at best, tip toe past that line. The brake check. The side comment. The "you wanna go?!" repeated without throwing the initial strike. For someone to go from zero to 100 without a thought or provocation, is something I can't wrap my mind around. well I can't deny that I have been in more than my share of bar brawls so there but by the grace of God go I mind you, in my day, Canadians essentially engaged in hockey fights Marquis of Queensbury rules fisticuffs you didn't have to win you just had to show up and as soon as the other guys went down, you knocked it off, you never finished anybody off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 2 hours ago, Perspektiv said: If he showed remorse, throw in a chance of parole after 25 years. His first court appearance was notable due to his lack of remorse. He looks pissed off, and sighed loudly when the judge ordered him remanded until Thursday. He asked "so this means I have to be here all week?" This clown sobers up, finds out he killed two people, and is already feeling sorry for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: "so this means I have to be here all week?" Yeah, the judge will see he doesn't pass the sniff test, and hopefully the jury as well, in maxing out all sentences against. He doesn't deserve a day of freedom, as long as he has breath in his lungs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted August 31 Author Report Share Posted August 31 In an ironic twist, the 43-year old drunk driver that struck and killed Gaudreau and his brother, worked at a drug and alcohol rehab centre close by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted September 1 Report Share Posted September 1 14 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: In an ironic twist, the 43-year old drunk driver that struck and killed Gaudreau and his brother, worked at a drug and alcohol rehab centre close by. People like this will never learn. His track record speaks for itself. Multiple offenses. It was only a matter if time he seriously hurt or killed someone. The history, lack of remorse and the irrefutable evidence will hopefully make this a relatively quick case and the consequences be heavy handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUI_Offender Posted September 1 Author Report Share Posted September 1 5 hours ago, Perspektiv said: People like this will never learn. His track record speaks for itself. Multiple offenses. It was only a matter if time he seriously hurt or killed someone. The history, lack of remorse and the irrefutable evidence will hopefully make this a relatively quick case and the consequences be heavy handed. Is there a link to his multiple offences? The only thing that I heard mentioned was he was charged with DUI in 2005, but somehow got out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspektiv Posted September 3 Report Share Posted September 3 On 9/1/2024 at 3:20 PM, DUI_Offender said: Is there a link to his multiple offences? "According to court records, Higgins had multiple traffic violations against him, including operating under the influence of liquor or drugs, reckless driving, consuming alcoholic beverages in a motor vehicle, having an open alcoholic beverage in a vehicle, improper passing, and executing an unsafe lane change" This is just utter failure from the laws supposedly there to keep us safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 5 Report Share Posted September 5 On 9/1/2024 at 10:11 AM, Perspektiv said: People like this will never learn. His track record speaks for itself. Multiple offenses. It was only a matter if time he seriously hurt or killed someone. The history, lack of remorse and the irrefutable evidence will hopefully make this a relatively quick case and the consequences be heavy handed. sadly the man has two daughters of his own so he has destroyed two families by his lunatic passing on the right at speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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