August1991 Posted June 29, 2024 Report Posted June 29, 2024 I was looking for the name, equivalent. Dalton Camp! Je suis vieux. Quote
August1991 Posted June 29, 2024 Author Report Posted June 29, 2024 Jim Coutts, and Robert Kaplan. === I reckon that Church was like Coutts. Quote
ExFlyer Posted June 29, 2024 Report Posted June 29, 2024 ??? Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
August1991 Posted July 1, 2024 Author Report Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) Jim Coutts was a chief of staff (like Leslie Church) and Trudeau Snt let him run in a by-election. He lost. Dalton Camp was a chief of staff (to Stanfield). Robert Caplan famously defeated him in a general election. Bob Haldeman and Ron Klain were chiefs of staff. Draw your own conclusions. ===== Let me add that - IMHO - this weird/awful position is peculiar to modern government. It didn't exist prior to the 1950s and it doesn't exist in the private sector. CEOs like Warren Buffet or Elon Musk have many assistants, even principal assistants. But I don't think either has a chief of staff - and nor did Hoover or King. Trudeau's principal secretary was Marc Lalonde who went on to become an MP. Edited July 1, 2024 by August1991 Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Jim Coutts was a chief of staff (like Leslie Church) and Trudeau Snt let him run in a by-election. He lost. Dalton Camp was a chief of staff (to Stanfield). Robert Caplan famously defeated him in a general election. Bob Haldeman and Ron Klain were chiefs of staff. Draw your own conclusions. ===== Let me add that - IMHO - this weird/awful position is peculiar to modern government. It didn't exist prior to the 1950s and it doesn't exist in the private sector. CEOs like Warren Buffet or Elon Musk have many assistants, even principal assistants. But I don't think either has a chief of staff - and nor did Hoover or King. Trudeau's principal secretary was Marc Lalonde who went on to become an MP. Are oyu insinuating that elections were run and handled and fully campaigned by the person running? If you think so, you are completely misinformed. There were always teams and election trail hierarchy. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
August1991 Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Posted July 3, 2024 On 7/2/2024 at 12:47 AM, ExFlyer said: Are oyu insinuating that elections were run and handled and fully campaigned by the person running? If you think so, you are completely misinformed. There were always teams and election trail hierarchy. I'm suggesting that 1) by-elections are often protest votes and 2) chiefs of staff are often failed politicians. Quote
ExFlyer Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 15 hours ago, August1991 said: I'm suggesting that 1) by-elections are often protest votes and 2) chiefs of staff are often failed politicians. 1. So, of the 8 federal by elections and only 1 lost are protest votes? 2. Please name the failed politicians that are chiefs of staff. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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