Liberals: What is it about them?

[stignasty]

I sold my '80 Mustang. Does that mean that I still have an '80 Mustang?

Of course I do!!! The media does not want the story to get out!!!!

I only have aluminum foil, will it work as well as tin?

[Hicksey]

Anyone seen the reports yet about the wire taps on Hussein, his sons and top advisors on how Hussein flew most of the WMDs out to Syria on gutted commerical passenger planes before the invasion?

There's a thread on the wiretaps. And here's one thing that sticks out about the "WMD flown to Syria story": the complete absence of any actual evidence beyond this one dude's story, a dude who has no first hand knowledge of the operation in question, but claims he heard the story from the two other guys. Now, in my book, "I know a guy who knows a guy who says X" isn't evidence. It's a rumour. Now, the point I keep coming back to is this: if the U.S. has knowledge or evidence of Iraq's WMD, why would they stay mum instead of shouting such claims from the rooftops? Instead, we get an addenda to the ISG final report which states:

At best, barring discovery of original documentary evidence of the transfer, reports or sources may have been substantiated or negated, but fi rm conclusions on actual WMD movements may not be possible.

Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place.

Now, given that this thread is nothing more than a forum for unsupported spleen venting by certain posters, I shouldn't even bother. But I can't hep but notice the similarity between so many right-wing fringe memes about Iraq's WMD (there's usually some conspracy afoot involving the hated "MSM", and certain elements in the government) and fring lefty theories about 9-11. Yet the former are given serious consideration while the latter (justifiably) dismissed.

The media must now want this one to get out. Do a news search on google about it and you'll get only these 3 results.

Au contraire. there's hundreds of hits from such bastions of journalism as the 700 Club.

I just posted the story for discussion. I didn't see the other one or I wouldn't have posted it here.

I didn't say one way or the other. However, I've always believed it was plausible because the Americans gave him 14 months notice before invading. In that time they could have picked up the desert and moved it.

[newbie]

I have wondered what if fate had had it the other way...that the suicide planes did not hit the Twin Towers but instead obliterated downtown Toronto or Ottawa. How would we have reacted then?

We would not have attacked Iraq as it was irrelevant to even the least obvious of observers. We would have gone to the UN and secured the proper authority and allies to conduct an assault into Afghanistan where the enemy was. And since we undoubedtly would have had more allies than the US, we just might have been able to capture Osama and undermine his movement.

So if you've been sure all along that the enemy was confined only in Afghaniztan, why didn't you volunteer that valuable information to intelligence? It would have saved Saddam a lot of grief...not to mention the courtroom spectators, of having him show protest in his dirty underwear.

It is easy for us to criticize because it was not us who was directly hit by those planes. We were not the ones who were directly challenged right on our shores.

You asked the question, I answered it. I wasn't the only one who thought the "enemy" (not Saddam by the way) was in Afghanistan. Read the 911 commission report.

[kimmy]

I have wondered what if fate had had it the other way...that the suicide planes did not hit the Twin Towers but instead obliterated downtown Toronto or Ottawa. How would we have reacted then?

We would not have attacked Iraq as it was irrelevant to even the least obvious of observers. We would have gone to the UN and secured the proper authority and allies to conduct an assault into Afghanistan where the enemy was. And since we undoubedtly would have had more allies than the US, we just might have been able to capture Osama and undermine his movement.

I really doubt it.

More likely, Canada spends 3 months of fruitless begging and pleading with Mullah Omar to send Bin Laden here. After which, we announce bad-ass measures like cutting them from our foreign aid plan. Maybe it's just me. I can't picture Canada instigating a military action against a country on the otherside of the world. We're followers, not leaders.

As for the Americans mishandling Afghanistan, recall that the US did in fact secure UN authorization and a long list of allies before going to Afghanistan. At that time they literally did have the whole world on their side, and they did not lose that goodwill for over a year.

-k

[newbie]

[quote name='kimmy' date='Feb 16 2006, 02:14 PM' post='98396

As for the Americans mishandling Afghanistan, recall that the US did in fact secure UN authorization and a long list of allies before going to Afghanistan. At that time they literally did have the whole world on their side, and they did not lose that goodwill for over a year.

-k

I have no argument with the UN authorization and allies. But the assualt was led by the US and they did blow it. They had Bin Laden cornered in Tora Bora and they power shared with Afghan warlords to get him. Bad mistake.

[Spike22]

Liberals what is it about them? I have a friend that admits to being one. We accept her in our home. We let her ride in the same section on the bus and use our restrooms. She also has good grooming habits and is kind to animals and children.