Ignatieff for Liberal Leader!

[Biblio Bibuli]

I can't see Bevilaqua cracking the top 5 either, but he's the only one I wouldn't mind running Canada. Ignatieff could be good news, but he said himself he's tax and spend Trudeau style. And I dislike that.

No lies about what Michael Ignatieff said or didn't say will help your Italian Stallion get into the money. :angry:

From: http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/ignatieff.html

"I don’t know that realism quite gets it, Evan, I think there has been evolution in what I think. Certain parts of me are utterly unchanged, I’m a kind of Pierre Trudeau, gay marriage, tax and spend liberal on the social domestic side"

Anyone that wants to be like Trudeau is not someone I want running my country.

You forgot to quote what he said next:

"I’m a blue-state tax and spend liberal as I’ve said –"

Had Bill Clinton been a President in the 60's he'd have spent like a drunken sailor too, because it was fashionable back then.

But did slick Willie blow a wad in the 90's (except on Monica's dress)? No. And neither will Iggy.

Anyway ... you can bet your bottom dollar that he'll explain better than I can what he meant by that during the race. Soon I hope. The sooner the better, THAT'S for sure!

GO IGGY GO!

[geoffrey]

Tax and spend isn't an attitude I'm comfortable with, bottom line.

Black Dog,

Aid does nothing when its given to corrupt governments. We can give a bazillion dollars to Rwanda or Sudan, and it won't change a thing.

We need some regime change, there are very few places that are poor and have responsibile government.

[shoop]

Wow, I cannot believe that Ignatieff is proudly claiming he is a 'tax and spender'.

I think Dryden, and to a lesser extent Brison, can also appeal to the business community. If Drydent can get his organization together it could help big time.

"I don’t know that realism quite gets it, Evan, I think there has been evolution in what I think. Certain parts of me are utterly unchanged, I’m a kind of Pierre Trudeau, gay marriage, tax and spend liberal on the social domestic side, pretty well unchanged since the sixties, in fact confirmed by events. I think I’ve got tougher on the international side, more hawkish because of the combined effect of watching ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, seeing what it looks like – seeing the Kosovo intervention."

The Liberals won't win going more left-wing. Suprisingly, even with his low profile, Bevilaqua may be one of the few candidates that could appeal to the business community, those that used to support the Liberals but lost faith when they went too leftist.

Whoever controls that central libertarian type business community wins. And right now, its the CPC. It's been traditionally Liberal.

[Black Dog]

Aid does nothing when its given to corrupt governments. We can give a bazillion dollars to Rwanda or Sudan, and it won't change a thing.

I didn't say we should give money to corrupt governments. I said we should spend it on aid and investments (aid not neccesarily being direct aid to the regimes).

We need some regime change, there are very few places that are poor and have responsibile government.

That's beside the point. You can't just put intervention forward as a solution without answering how you propose to change the very framework that determines who does and does not deserve a helping hand. Look, if I thought it worked, I'd be all for it.

[geoffrey]

Wow, I cannot believe that Ignatieff is proudly claiming he is a 'tax and spender'.

I think Dryden, and to a lesser extent Brison, can also appeal to the business community. If Drydent can get his organization together it could help big time.

"I don’t know that realism quite gets it, Evan, I think there has been evolution in what I think. Certain parts of me are utterly unchanged, I’m a kind of Pierre Trudeau, gay marriage, tax and spend liberal on the social domestic side, pretty well unchanged since the sixties, in fact confirmed by events. I think I’ve got tougher on the international side, more hawkish because of the combined effect of watching ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, seeing what it looks like – seeing the Kosovo intervention."

The Liberals won't win going more left-wing. Suprisingly, even with his low profile, Bevilaqua may be one of the few candidates that could appeal to the business community, those that used to support the Liberals but lost faith when they went too leftist.

Whoever controls that central libertarian type business community wins. And right now, its the CPC. It's been traditionally Liberal.

Bevilacqua is by far the most pro-business candidate out there. I would actually hold my nose and vote for him if he promised enough tax cuts and pro-business measures.

Brison is merely a slick salesman, he's not a pro-business, anti-tax type. Dryden wants to spend more than the rest of the candidates save Dion so far, so I'm questioning why you'd say Dryden is pro-business?

[Canuck E Stan]

Not knowing Kennedy,what makes him so popular other than his name(another JFK?) and the fact he's not part of the present bunch of "name" politicians. What's he done that makes him a contender?

[shoop]

I said he would appeal to business because he does have experience in the corporate world. The Leafs are very big business, and he must would have made a lot of connections while he ran them.

Because it is lacking in most candidates, experience in business is all that would really be necessary to appeal to the business community out of this lot.

Brison, Dryden and Dion are the only three out of this lot with any significant business experience.

Brison is merely a slick salesman, he's not a pro-business, anti-tax type. Dryden wants to spend more than the rest of the candidates save Dion so far, so I'm questioning why you'd say Dryden is pro-business?