Prime Minister Harper Should Dismiss Frank McKenna

[scribblet]

Firing McKenna is retarded, he has done well in Washington and should be kept on. Harper should keep him in that position.

WTF?? Manning? I am your new Ambasadoooooooooooooorrr.

Even if he has, politics demands he be lost.

If Harper had a majority, leaving him there wouldn't matter.

I doubt he would fire him right away, give him a chance to settle in first.... But it doesn't make political sense to leave an opposition member in that position, it would be a chance for the opposition to undermine any good work that Harper might do.

Preston Manning....hnmm good choice

[geoffrey]

I shook his hand last night, kind didn't want to distrub him because he was kind of duck and cover with the media. I was so happy to see him there, if only all our politicans had integrity like Manning.

I don't want to sound like a braggart but .... NOT ONLY did I shake his hand once, he also autographed a book for me once.

Why the hell was he "duck and cover" there?

Did he and Stephen kiss & make up? When?

Is he going to help Harper now?

Boy, the two of them sure would be a handful for Ignatieff. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ignatieff defected and joined their team.

Harper, Ignatieff, Manning ..... what a dream team that would be.

He just didn't want to talk to the media or make a big statement or anything it seemed. He wasn't really talking to anyone.

He also send on an interview this morning that he'd be interested in helping out the Conservatives. So go Preston.

That would be a dream team, ethics from Harper and Manning, and stylish good looks from Ignatieffmania.

[normanchateau]

Do you suppose if I started a thread asking whether Harper should dismiss Martin-appointee Hugh Segal because he compromises Harper's integrity, CPC supporters would ignore it?

[scribblet]

I shook his hand last night, kind didn't want to distrub him because he was kind of duck and cover with the media. I was so happy to see him there, if only all our politicans had integrity like Manning.

I don't want to sound like a braggart but .... NOT ONLY did I shake his hand once, he also autographed a book for me once.

Why the hell was he "duck and cover" there?

Did he and Stephen kiss & make up? When?

Is he going to help Harper now?

Boy, the two of them sure would be a handful for Ignatieff. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if Ignatieff defected and joined their team.

Harper, Ignatieff, Manning ..... what a dream team that would be.

He just didn't want to talk to the media or make a big statement or anything it seemed. He wasn't really talking to anyone.

He also send on an interview this morning that he'd be interested in helping out the Conservatives. So go Preston.

That would be a dream team, ethics from Harper and Manning, and stylish good looks from Ignatieffmania.

Me too: I met Manning a few times, have some pics of me with him...that guy has more integrity in his little finger than most of them. Its funny, religion, or Christophobia didn't seem to be an issue then, IMHO its a trickle down effect of the anti Bush/American sentiment.

[normanchateau]

I met Manning a few times, have some pics of me with him...that guy has more integrity in his little finger than most of them.

Yup, he never would have picked Mulroney's Principal Secetary as his new advisor. And he had little use for Stephen Harper, naming Herb Grubel rather than Harper as Reform Finance Critic.

[Spike22]

McKenna is a fine polititian. The key word being polititian. Actually from all accounts he now is doing a good job on behalf of the Canadian government regardless of which party he is affiliated, however if we want to start relations on new footing with the yanks we just might have to replace him. Sorry but polly-tics is a dirty game and heads might have to roll.

[normanchateau]

Yeah, Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job.

[tml12]

Yeah, Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job.

A bit of sardonic humour in tha bite their norman?

[normanchateau]

Yeah, Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job.

A bit of sardonic humour in tha bite their norman?

Hard to answer. What's "tha bite their"?

[tml12]

Yeah, Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job.

A bit of sardonic humour in tha bite their norman?

Hard to answer. What's "tha bite their"?

"Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job."

Who should he appoint?

[normanchateau]

Yeah, Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job.

A bit of sardonic humour in tha bite their norman?

Hard to answer. What's "tha bite their"?

"Harper would never appoint a politician to this important job."

Who should he appoint?

Someone as good as Frank McKenna.

[tml12]

I never said Frank McKenna wasn't good. He was a good representative of Canada.

Yet, he is tied into the old federal Liberal regime because he was appointed by them.

He should be replaced not because he did a bad job, but because Harper needs to clean house.

[Spike22]

He should appoint space dude Marc Garneau because:

- he is a space cadet like George W.;

- he could have Georgie Boy over with his toy spacemen and play "circle the planet Yeranus"

- Georgie could have Marc over to the white house and play hide the space probe...in the black hole

Could greet one another with snappy yet childlike phrases such as: "George is that a piece of Canadian softwood in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"

[CCGirl]

Why would Harper get rid of McKenna? The USA LOVES him, he is best buddies with Bush I and is (or was) on the board of the Carlyle Group along with some of the bin Ladens.

The Carlyle Group has been dubbed "the ex-presidents' Club." Former president Bush Sr. has served on its Asia advisory board since he left the Oval Office. Carlyle also claims James A. Baker III, George Bush Sr.'s former secretary of state; Frank Carlucci, Ronald Reagan's former defence secretary and former deputy director of the CIA; John Major, a former British prime minister; Fidel Ramos, former president of the Philippines; and a host of other Washington hawks.

The group's traditional involvement in the defence and aerospace industry and its roster of former national security mandarins has placed the Carlyle Group in the murky world of the military-industrial complex. When the current president, George W. Bush, declared the "War on Terror" and opened the floodgates of military spending, the Carlyle Group was uniquely positioned to profit.

Until now, few people had ever heard of the Carlyle Group. Who even knew that there was a Canadian advisory board? Apparently there is, and its membership includes ex-premier McKenna along with Peter Lougheed, the former premier of Alberta; Power Corp.'s Paul Desmarais, Bombardier's Laurent Beaudoin, former Canadian Ambassador to the United States Allan Gotlieb, and others.

[tml12]

Are you insinuating the USA loves the Carlyle Group because I have never met one American who does...

[CCGirl]

Are you insinuating the USA loves the Carlyle Group because I have never met one American who does...

The people in POWER have serious ties to the Carlyle Group.

[tml12]

Are you insinuating the USA loves the Carlyle Group because I have never met one American who does...

The people in POWER have serious ties to the Carlyle Group.

So I guess you are happy the Liberals lost because they appointed this American ambassador who had ties to the Carlyle Group and I suppose you also want our new Prime Minister Harper to replace him...

[geoffrey]

Or maybe she's implying that Harper needs to join the Caryle Group. Why would a smart man turn down such a great investment opportunity?

[CCGirl]

Are you insinuating the USA loves the Carlyle Group because I have never met one American who does...

The people in POWER have serious ties to the Carlyle Group.

So I guess you are happy the Liberals lost because they appointed this American ambassador who had ties to the Carlyle Group and I suppose you also want our new Prime Minister Harper to replace him...

I am not "happy" that the Liberals lost, but I do believe in the expression absolute power corrupts absolutely. This was a necessary loss, they need to get their house in order. However, I am under no illusion about Harper either. We will have to wait and see what happens when the muzzles come off the lunatic fringe of the party

Hey, I live in one of the most corrupt provinces of the country!

[tml12]

Are you insinuating the USA loves the Carlyle Group because I have never met one American who does...

The people in POWER have serious ties to the Carlyle Group.

So I guess you are happy the Liberals lost because they appointed this American ambassador who had ties to the Carlyle Group and I suppose you also want our new Prime Minister Harper to replace him...

I am not "happy" that the Liberals lost, but I do believe in the expression absolute power corrupts absolutely. This was a necessary loss, they need to get their house in order. However, I am under no illusion about Harper either. We will have to wait and see what happens when the muzzles come off the lunatic fringe of the party

Hey, I live in one of the most corrupt provinces of the country!

Fair enough CCGirl. I do not know about Alberta corruption...I have never been to Alberta.

What I do know is that I have confidence in the Harper government!!!

[geoffrey]

Alberta isn't corrupt, its just undemocratic. Klein doesn't even go to the legislature anymore, he just spends right out of the Alberta wallet. Oh well though, its spent responsibly, and the Party isn't stealing money. I can see how the Liberal folks would be all pissed off out here, but too bad, thats the danger of the parlimentary system.

Plus if someone wants to send me $400 cash, I'll welcome it with open arms.

[tml12]

Alberta isn't corrupt, its just undemocratic. Klein doesn't even go to the legislature anymore, he just spends right out of the Alberta wallet. Oh well though, its spent responsibly, and the Party isn't stealing money. I can see how the Liberal folks would be all pissed off out here, but too bad, thats the danger of the parlimentary system.

Plus if someone wants to send me $400 cash, I'll welcome it with open arms.

If Ralph Klein ran here, I'd vote for him...

(Especially if he cut the TPS and deregulated the SAQ!!!)

[newbie]

Preston Manning??

He deserves something out of this.

I heard the CBC is looking for a replacement for the late Mr. Dressup.

[normanchateau]

I never said Frank McKenna wasn't good. He was a good representative of Canada.

Yet, he is tied into the old federal Liberal regime because he was appointed by them.

But Hugh Segal was appointed to the Senate last year by the same old federal Liberal regime yet he worked full-time as Harper's campaign co-chair and is currently working as his advisor while being paid for his appointed Senate position by all Canadian taxpayers.

Does this mean that Segal is tainted as well? And what does it say about Harper's integrity that he's prepared to have Segal work for him even though he was appointed By Martin and is paid for by all taxpayers, even those who don't support the Conservatives?

[tml12]

I never said Frank McKenna wasn't good. He was a good representative of Canada.

Yet, he is tied into the old federal Liberal regime because he was appointed by them.

But Hugh Segal was appointed to the Senate last year by the same old federal Liberal regime yet he worked full-time as Harper's campaign co-chair and is currently working as his advisor while being paid for his appointed Senate position by all Canadian taxpayers.

Does this mean that Segal is tainted as well? And what does it say about Harper's integrity that he's prepared to have Segal work for him even though he was appointed By Martin and is paid for by all taxpayers, even those who don't support the Conservatives?

Segal was a conservative for years...Martin appointed him because he wanted to be "nice" (or because he wanted to buy him off because he knew Segal's ultimate allegiance would be to the conservatives).

I respect Segal more for not just becoming another Liberal buy-out and I certainly respect him more for retaining his allegiances.