Rovik Posted January 20, 2006 Report Posted January 20, 2006 Ed Broadbent in his last news conference before he retires, has blasted the Liberal's arrogance and hypocrisy Here's some quotes from his news conference "The only time they talked about being progressive is in the dying days of the campaign. It's the only time they use the word -- when they try to go after the votes of ordinary people who are indicating they're going to vote for the NDP. Well I can tell you that this time it's not going to happen." "The Liberal campaigning has been deeply offensive," Broadbent continued. "Offensive to women, offensive to workers, and offensive to members of the armed forces, and offensive to all Canadians for suggesting that a vote for anyone but themselves is not progressive. This, my friends, is the height of arrogance. It is clear the Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to deserve people's votes. Their cynical manipulation … will not work this time." Here's the link from the CTV news site Link The link to video of the conference is also on this site. I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. Quote
Hicksey Posted January 20, 2006 Report Posted January 20, 2006 Ed Broadbent in his last news conference before he retires, has blasted the Liberal's arrogance and hypocrisyHere's some quotes from his news conference "The only time they talked about being progressive is in the dying days of the campaign. It's the only time they use the word -- when they try to go after the votes of ordinary people who are indicating they're going to vote for the NDP. Well I can tell you that this time it's not going to happen." "The Liberal campaigning has been deeply offensive," Broadbent continued. "Offensive to women, offensive to workers, and offensive to members of the armed forces, and offensive to all Canadians for suggesting that a vote for anyone but themselves is not progressive. This, my friends, is the height of arrogance. It is clear the Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to deserve people's votes. Their cynical manipulation … will not work this time." Here's the link from the CTV news site Link The link to video of the conference is also on this site. I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. Not a fan of Broadbent, but I can respect his plan to clean things up in Ottawa and I am glad Harper has comandeered sections of it for use in his Accountability bill. Normally I'd rip Harper a new one for not having his own ideas, but I think this is a non-partisan issue and all Canadians benefit from this so I can excuse it as long as he gives credit to Broadbent where necessary. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
geoffrey Posted January 20, 2006 Report Posted January 20, 2006 I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. I honestly don't think it will work anymore. The voters know better. I've always said there are two principled choices in this election, the Conservatives and the NDP. Both parties, in my opinion, honestly believe the message they are putting out and want to make a difference. The Liberals just want to hold on to power and don't actually agree with anything they do. It's been this way for 13 years, why would it change now? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
tml12 Posted January 20, 2006 Report Posted January 20, 2006 Ed Broadbent in his last news conference before he retires, has blasted the Liberal's arrogance and hypocrisyHere's some quotes from his news conference "The only time they talked about being progressive is in the dying days of the campaign. It's the only time they use the word -- when they try to go after the votes of ordinary people who are indicating they're going to vote for the NDP. Well I can tell you that this time it's not going to happen." "The Liberal campaigning has been deeply offensive," Broadbent continued. "Offensive to women, offensive to workers, and offensive to members of the armed forces, and offensive to all Canadians for suggesting that a vote for anyone but themselves is not progressive. This, my friends, is the height of arrogance. It is clear the Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to deserve people's votes. Their cynical manipulation … will not work this time." Here's the link from the CTV news site Link The link to video of the conference is also on this site. I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. I can't complain too much about that...I respect Broadbent although I would never vote NDP. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Boru Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 Ed Broadbent in his last news conference before he retires, has blasted the Liberal's arrogance and hypocrisy Here's some quotes from his news conference "The only time they talked about being progressive is in the dying days of the campaign. It's the only time they use the word -- when they try to go after the votes of ordinary people who are indicating they're going to vote for the NDP. Well I can tell you that this time it's not going to happen." "The Liberal campaigning has been deeply offensive," Broadbent continued. "Offensive to women, offensive to workers, and offensive to members of the armed forces, and offensive to all Canadians for suggesting that a vote for anyone but themselves is not progressive. This, my friends, is the height of arrogance. It is clear the Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to deserve people's votes. Their cynical manipulation … will not work this time." Here's the link from the CTV news site Link The link to video of the conference is also on this site. I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. I can't complain too much about that...I respect Broadbent although I would never vote NDP. WHat Broadbent says seems accurate as well. The NDP are projected to nearly double their seats. But, in the dying days of therace, I can see that number diminshing alot as scared voters do return to the Liberal flock. Quote
Hicksey Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 Ed Broadbent in his last news conference before he retires, has blasted the Liberal's arrogance and hypocrisy Here's some quotes from his news conference "The only time they talked about being progressive is in the dying days of the campaign. It's the only time they use the word -- when they try to go after the votes of ordinary people who are indicating they're going to vote for the NDP. Well I can tell you that this time it's not going to happen." "The Liberal campaigning has been deeply offensive," Broadbent continued. "Offensive to women, offensive to workers, and offensive to members of the armed forces, and offensive to all Canadians for suggesting that a vote for anyone but themselves is not progressive. This, my friends, is the height of arrogance. It is clear the Liberal Party no longer has the moral authority to deserve people's votes. Their cynical manipulation … will not work this time." Here's the link from the CTV news site Link The link to video of the conference is also on this site. I can't believe people will be manipulated again by the Liberals. I would hope that people who aren't willing to vote for the Conservatives can see through the Liberal's rhetoric and scare-mongering and see the arrogance, corruption, the broken promises and the fact that many of the Liberal MPs, including Martin himself are against SSM and abortion, yet the Liberals say they support them..hyprocrisy at its worst. I can't complain too much about that...I respect Broadbent although I would never vote NDP. WHat Broadbent says seems accurate as well. The NDP are projected to nearly double their seats. But, in the dying days of therace, I can see that number diminshing alot as scared voters do return to the Liberal flock. I concur. Ed's a smart guy all around. I'd never vote for him, but as long as we're giving credit where it's due here ... And I expect some movement like that too. I think we'll both be proven right by monday night boru. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
tml12 Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 It seems unlikely, though, thet even a major NDP to Liberal shift would prevent a Conservative government. I think that in the last election many NDP voters realized they had the power to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative government and, naturally, chose Liberal. With the Liberals so down and out in this election, many NDPers may stay with their own party...which is fine with me. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Boru Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 It seems unlikely, though, thet even a major NDP to Liberal shift would prevent a Conservative government. I think that in the last election many NDP voters realized they had the power to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative government and, naturally, chose Liberal. With the Liberals so down and out in this election, many NDPers may stay with their own party...which is fine with me. You underestimate NDP supporters if you think they would'nt lend votes to the Liberals to defeat the Conservatives. Or at the least, paralyze them with a minority government. The Liberals are anywhere but down and out. I suppose a healthy ignorance and oblivion to the current political climate would lead you to make a remark like that. Quote
normanchateau Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 You underestimate NDP supporters if you think they would'nt lend votes to the Liberals to defeat the Conservatives. Or at the least, paralyze them with a minority government. The Liberals are anywhere but down and out. I suppose a healthy ignorance and oblivion to the current political climate would lead you to make a remark like that. I doubt that enough NDP supporters will vote Liberal to defeat the Conservatives. However, the second scenario seems likely...i.e., a paralyzed CPC minority government . At least the latter can't do major harm to Canada without being defeated. Quote
scribblet Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 It seems unlikely, though, thet even a major NDP to Liberal shift would prevent a Conservative government. I think that in the last election many NDP voters realized they had the power to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative government and, naturally, chose Liberal. With the Liberals so down and out in this election, many NDPers may stay with their own party...which is fine with me. It looks like they just might do that, Buzz Hargrove's engineering seems to be falling flat. Heck, he even wants people to vote for the bloc. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
tml12 Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 It seems unlikely, though, thet even a major NDP to Liberal shift would prevent a Conservative government. I think that in the last election many NDP voters realized they had the power to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative government and, naturally, chose Liberal. With the Liberals so down and out in this election, many NDPers may stay with their own party...which is fine with me. You underestimate NDP supporters if you think they would'nt lend votes to the Liberals to defeat the Conservatives. Or at the least, paralyze them with a minority government. The Liberals are anywhere but down and out. I suppose a healthy ignorance and oblivion to the current political climate would lead you to make a remark like that. But you're wrong. The CPC has maintained consistent 10-point leade. Are you saying you expect THAT MANY NDP voters to turn the tide on their party? That says a lot about NDP supporters if it is true. In the last election the Liberals had about a 3-4 point lead around election time. The NDP votes gave them a stronger minority then was expected. I suppose a healthy sense of denial would cause you to think like you do. Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
tml12 Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 It seems unlikely, though, thet even a major NDP to Liberal shift would prevent a Conservative government. I think that in the last election many NDP voters realized they had the power to choose between a Liberal and a Conservative government and, naturally, chose Liberal. With the Liberals so down and out in this election, many NDPers may stay with their own party...which is fine with me. It looks like they just might do that, Buzz Hargrove's engineering seems to be falling flat. Heck, he even wants people to vote for the bloc. Buzz was a political liability from day one. Any Liberal should have known this. The day he endorses them he basically said "I am doing this because the left-wing party I really want to win won't and of the two remaining choices you guys are the lesser evil." Quite an endorsement... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Rovik Posted January 21, 2006 Author Report Posted January 21, 2006 WHat Broadbent says seems accurate as well. The NDP are projected to nearly double their seats. But, in the dying days of therace, I can see that number diminshing alot as scared voters do return to the Liberal flock. I don't think this will happen this time. In fact, I believe that many ex-Liberal voters will switch to the NDP. People see that Liberals are not the "progressive" party that they are pretending to be and will do anything to stay in government. I predict the NDP will win anywhere from 30-50 seats Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted January 21, 2006 Report Posted January 21, 2006 Like the Quebec Federalist Liberals going to the Conservatives in Quebec to retain their Federalist desires instead of giving their votes to the Bloc,I see the many Liberals lending their votes to the NDP because they know this Martin Liberal government is finished, and give hopes to a better group running the show next time round. The NDP'ers this time around won't give the Liberals their vote because they know the Liberals aren't deserving of support and would be better to stay with Layton in order to be a potential watch dog to anything the Conservatives might do.NDP seats should increase substantially. How this will affect the Conservative numbers with Liberal votes moving might still make for a majority for the Conservatives by default. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
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