August1991 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 It is unfortunate that Canada's Left amounts too often to a group of anti-Americans. It hinders legitimate debate and is counter productive for the Left. Its attitude is typical of a group of right wingers, centred around U.S-born academic Tom Flanagan of the University of Calgary. This "Calgary school," with which Harper is very closely allied, peddles a Canadian version of Paul Wolfowitz-style neo-conservatism, and it likes the idea of using oil-rich Alberta as a right-wing battering ram against the more socially democratic vision of Canada that prevails in much of the rest of the country. Linda McQuaig - Toronto Star"US-born", how awful! (And is such a remark not politically incorrect?) McQuaig also somehow manages to blame the media for Harper's success. Quote
The Honest Politician Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 If every Canadian could understand the implications of the letters, speeches and comments made by Harper over the years he wouldn't even be party leader let alone potential Prime Minister. Quote
August1991 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Posted January 9, 2006 If every Canadian could understand the implications of the letters, speeches and comments made by Harper over the years he wouldn't even be party leader let alone potential Prime Minister.Are you suggesting that Canadians don't have access to the Internet, can't read or are too stupid to understand Harper's words? Harper's various writings are available on the Internet and they have been published in many places.According to William Johnson, not since Pierre Trudeau has Canada had a leader who has given as much thought to the nature of Canada. McQuaig foolishly attempts to turn an anti-American rant into an anti-Harper rant. But she also mentions the "firewall" letter. Kimmy elsewhere on this forum described the context of that letter and then pointed out that Harper's position merely amounts to respecting Canada's constitution. Quote
The Honest Politician Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Are you suggesting that Canadians don't have access to the Internet, can't read or are too stupid to understand Harper's words? Many don't have internet access, some can't read, and there are tons of stupid people in the world. The main thing is the majority of people don't understand what his comments imply. Which is basically making Canada nothing more than a subsidiary of the United States. A junior partner who sheepishly follows and obeys the orders given from down south. This is especially true if there is any credence to the suspicion of Conservative Americans contributing to Harper's leadership campaigns. Quote
Yaro Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 What I really don't get is that a good 80% of the Conservatives on this board are head over heal in love with the US but then get all defensive when its suggested that they would like Canada to become more like the US. Quote
River_God Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Are you suggesting that Canadians don't have access to the Internet, can't read or are too stupid to understand Harper's words? Many don't have internet access, some can't read, and there are tons of stupid people in the world. I think a big problem is that many neo-cons are actually terrified of the thought of keeping an open mind. After all, they could be labeled a terrorist if they hear, read or say anything bad about fanatical conservatism. You have you wonder about that logic. If conservative extremists are actually good guys, people will have nothing to fear about questioning them. If conservative extremists have a bad side, letting it get out of control would be disastrous. Richard Perle quote: If we go forth, and wage a total war, our children will sing great songs about us Stephen Harper quote: Human rights commissions are an attack on our freedoms. It is in fact totalitarianism. I find this is very scary stuff. Harper being part of Perle's cabal is very scary stuff. Quote
August1991 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Posted January 9, 2006 The main thing is the majority of people don't understand what his comments imply. Which is basically making Canada nothing more than a subsidiary of the United States. There you go again. You once again insult ordinary Canadians (such as me) by suggesting that we are incapable of understanding Harper and then you try to link your dislike of Bush or Americans or both to Harper. You just don't get it. I have the suspicion that if Canada's Left were not anti-American it would be much more successful. Quote
Argus Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Are you suggesting that Canadians don't have access to the Internet, can't read or are too stupid to understand Harper's words? Many don't have internet access, some can't read, and there are tons of stupid people in the world. The main thing is the majority of people don't understand what his comments imply. Imply to you, to biased, fearful, cowering minds which think the Americans are the Great Satan. Most of us are a little more confident and a little more mature. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The Honest Politician Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 The failure to see that Harpers value system is parrallel to that of the conservative United States is your problem. Should Harper get voted into power his values will become everyones problem. I don't think Americans are the great Satan but the conservative movement sure gets some little devils. I suppose you think there is nothing wrong with the whole Halliburton/LBJ/Rumsfeld/Cheney/Iraq/Bush/Texas Oil web of Govt contracts, and political favours. Quote
tml12 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 It is unfortunate that Canada's Left amounts too often to a group of anti-Americans. It hinders legitimate debate and is counter productive for the Left.Its attitude is typical of a group of right wingers, centred around U.S-born academic Tom Flanagan of the University of Calgary. This "Calgary school," with which Harper is very closely allied, peddles a Canadian version of Paul Wolfowitz-style neo-conservatism, and it likes the idea of using oil-rich Alberta as a right-wing battering ram against the more socially democratic vision of Canada that prevails in much of the rest of the country. Linda McQuaig - Toronto Star"US-born", how awful! (And is such a remark not politically incorrect?) McQuaig also somehow manages to blame the media for Harper's success. I agree August. The Canadian and especially Toronto left have become desparate. Their best weapon is to play the anti-American card. But you know what? How long can that work? How long can we insult are biggest trading partner and best friend before they start to take notice and get really angry. Shame on McQuaig and her hateful, odious ramblings... :angry: Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
Wilber Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 McQuaig has been singing the same song for years. The record never changes. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Guest eureka Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 If Kimmy said that, August, then kimmy was wrong. The firewall letter had nothing to do with reapecting the Constitution but with, like Quebec wants, obtaining "greater autonomy" for Alberta by defying the Constitution. HP: You seem not to have realised yet that most of the Conservatives also do not understand what Harper's speeches imply. A few do. but they don't care and support the destruction of a civic society and a civil nation. Quote
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