Good News for "Swing" voters

Renegade · December 28, 2005

Actually most stuff is ok by me. I'm not the one all upset about what people do if it doesn't hurt anyone else. I'm also not big on slippery-slope arguments because I find them intellectually lazy (i.e., we made a rational decision now so we will never be able to make a rational decision again).

Actually I agree with you and the SC. As long no one else is hurt we should permit such behaviour. Acutally it is not a slippery slope argument, its an argument that we should apply the same reasoning for all behaviour society considers "obscene"

But, for your first question, you're forgetting my point that few people survive incest without being somehow psychologically damaged. Having a bunch of psychologically messed-up people is bad for society, and when you're throwing in the increased likelihood of Deliverance babies, well, that makes it a different story than people swapping partners (remember? that's where we started).

I'm not convinced that most people end up psychologically harmed as a result of incest. I would need to see some evidence to be convinced. Even if they were, personally I would permit it because it harms no one else. There are lots of behaviours society permits which induce self-inflicted physical or psychologically harm.

As for your second question, my point was if my uncle wanted to have a bloody harem, it's no business of yours, so long as he isn't demanding his employer to cover them all for Blue Cross. In fact, as it stands now, he could have that harem. I don't think it's the law that's preventing that from becoming commonplace; I think it's tradition and pure reason.

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Actually it is against the law as well. Can he legaly marry more than one individual?

scribblet · December 28, 2005

If you combine this ruling with Canada's unusually low age of consent – 14 – will it result in an influx of pedophiles, since under Canadian law 14 year-olds are legally considered "consenting adults." They can just set up bawdy houses here now - talk about breaking down moral principles in Canadian society.

BubberMiley · December 28, 2005

I don't think the laws as they existed did much to protect 14-year-olds either. If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent. I don't care what consenting adults do, but I agree the age of consent is at least two years too low.

Argus · December 28, 2005

I don't think the laws as they existed did much to protect 14-year-olds either. If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent. I don't care what consenting adults do, but I agree the age of consent is at least two years too low.

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Unfortunately, the Liberals and NDP voted down a bill which would have raised the age of consent law only a couple of months ago. Only the Conservatives voted in favour of it.

Leafless · December 28, 2005

BubberMiley

You wrote- " If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent."

Oh, you mean paedophiles.

I really don't think hard core paedophiles care about the age of consent.

You also wrote- " I don't care what consenting adults do."

That's part of the problem. Sex and porn is like drugs , some people tend to go on to new sexual adventurers, some include paedophilia.

BubberMiley · December 28, 2005

BubberMiley
You wrote- " If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent."

Oh, you mean paedophiles.

I really don't think hard core paedophiles care about the age of consent.

You also wrote- " I don't care what consenting adults do."

That's part of the problem. Sex and porn is like drugs , some people tend to go on to new sexual adventurers, some include paedophilia.

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Actually paedophile is a british variation on the north american "pedophile" (check the Canadian Oxford). But anyway, who cares?

I agree that hard-core pedophiles probably will do what they do regardless of the law, and for that they should be locked up for good and I won't complain. I think the point was that having a too-low age of consent might be attractive to pedophiles who don't want to go to jail.

But good luck on your crusade to ban sex, Leafless. Maybe you'd enjoy Saudi Arabia. Personally, I live in a world where that probably wouldn't work.