theloniusfleabag Posted December 31, 2005 Report Posted December 31, 2005 I am not sure is plaigiarism covers anonymous authors, but.. http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40010 Twas the night before Tookie's execution ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A completely non-PC poem, to the tune of 'Twas the night before Christmas'... Credit for this goes to a New York City Police Officer who shall remain anonymous... Twas the night before Tookie's execution ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Twas the night before Christmas and all through San Quentin, the crips were protesting, and liberals were ventin'. The cyanide hung by the chamber wth care, ... Quote Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?
Guest eureka Posted December 31, 2005 Report Posted December 31, 2005 Doesn't it give you a nice warm feeling inside to read that? Warmed by the rising vomit as we realise that it was a member of the human race, supposedly, who wrote it. A member with the same feelings as an Eichmann as he performed his experiments on other humans. Quote
PocketRocket Posted December 31, 2005 Report Posted December 31, 2005 I have to admit that until reading through this thread, I was largely, if not completely, unaware of Tookie, his plight, and his history. For the past 1/2 hour or so, I've been looking into his story online. While he was protesting his innocence in the particular case for which he fried, there were numerous instances where he attacked jail guards while incarcerated, had many fights in prison, some of these ending fatally for his foes, and a host of other niceties. At his trial, when the jury foreman read the verdict, he looked at the jury and mouthed the words "I'll get each and every one of you mother****ers", or something similar. Additionally, while in prison, he said to guards on more than one occasion, that he had "dusted" several officers on the street, and one more wouldn't make a difference. Whether or not he was innocent of the four particular deaths for which he was terminated, he made it obvious that he had killed others (or believed he did), and equally obvious during his prison time that he was a violent sociopath who had no place in a civilized society. I cannot say that I am in any way sad to see him go. All that being said, I find the "Night before Christmas" adaptation to be in bad taste, even slightly disturbing. While we may acknowledge the necessity of removing a person from society via terminal means, I don't believe we should be celebrating either the necessity, nor the outcome. Quote I need another coffee
newbie Posted December 31, 2005 Report Posted December 31, 2005 crazymf, that was extremely bad taste. Quote
crazymf Posted January 1, 2006 Report Posted January 1, 2006 It's gallows humor. Lighten up. Way too much media attention has been given to this dead guy as it is. By whom? The left of course. The leftist Hollywood types picked this up to have yet another moment in the spotlight for themselves. I'd bet none of those people would be caught dead inviting the criminal to their house for tea and crumpets. This fellow was guilty, sentenced to death, and 'finally' executed, after 20 something years. My feeling is that they should take death cases directly from the courthouse to a room with a floordrain and executed with a bullet to the back of the head. No publicity, nothing. Goodbye. I heard none of you complaining nor was I about all the waste of television time and resources given to this loser by the left media, and now you're complaining about a simple poem expressing the positive result of this righteous execution and accusing me of bad taste etc. Seems like a one way street with only a left lane here boys and girls. Do I have bad taste? Maybe, but I have an opinion too, just like yours, and sometimes express it with humor. I do not believe that a topic can only be understood when only one opinion is served and everyone is in agreement. Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
Argus Posted January 1, 2006 Report Posted January 1, 2006 I'm not necessarily for the death penalty, but there are some who I believe should never ever see the light of day again. And unless I'm mistaken, Canada doesn't have a life sentence without possibility of parole. There's a chance that these pieces of crap could find themselves sitting before a parole board. And while one would hope that no parole board would ever be so stupid as to let these most notorious killers loose, what assurance to we have that they're equally vigilant with less famous cases? -k <{POST_SNAPBACK}> kimmy, You are mistaken...we have dangerous offender applications: No, she's not. She said Canada doesn't have life sentences "without possibility of parole", and we don't. The dangerous offender statute requires regular hearings to see if the offender can be released. And we all know just how great the judgement of the political appointees on parole boards is, don't we? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
kimmy Posted January 1, 2006 Report Posted January 1, 2006 Way too much media attention has been given to this dead guy as it is. By whom? The left of course. The leftist Hollywood types picked this up to have yet another moment in the spotlight for themselves. I'd bet none of those people would be caught dead inviting the criminal to their house for tea and crumpets. Hollywood types aren't afraid of associating with dangerous criminals, as long as they're the right kind. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
theloniusfleabag Posted January 1, 2006 Report Posted January 1, 2006 Dear crazymf, Not exactly 'gallows humour', for I think that is reserved for the condemned. More like... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude Schadenfreude is a German term meaning "pleasure taken from someone else's misfortune". I heard none of you complaining nor was I about all the waste of television time and resources given to this loser by the left media, and now you're complaining about a simple poem expressing the positive result of this righteous execution and accusing me of bad taste etc.Actually, I have only accused you of plaigiarism. I do not believe that a topic can only be understood when only one opinion is served and everyone is in agreement.I have to agree, that if everyone was of the same opinion, things might get boring. Quote Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?
crazymf Posted January 1, 2006 Report Posted January 1, 2006 Ok, my bad for not quoting the author. I got it from another site where the author was not indicated either. I just liked it anyway. Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
newbie Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 You can have any opinion you like crazy, but to express in such a tasteless and vile poem goes along the with meanspiried posts you have shown in the past. This isn't debate. It is spite and vengence. Ignore is invoked. Quote
crazymf Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Right on. If you don't like my opinion, don't read it. That's one of the ways to get along around here. I just found the poem funny, not tasteless or anything else, so, whatever floats your boat. Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
Argus Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Dear crazymf,Not exactly 'gallows humour', for I think that is reserved for the condemned. More like... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude Schadenfreude is a German term meaning "pleasure taken from someone else's misfortune". A perfectly understandable human emotion given the nature of the person involved. Who wouldn't take a certain smug delight in Paul Bernardo meeting a very bad end, for example? From all reasonable accounts the condemned most certainly deserved his death, and I can't imagine why such a fuss was put up over his fitting end. I feel no sorrow nor sympathy for him. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
newbie Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Who wouldn't take a certain smug delight in Paul Bernardo meeting a very bad end, for example? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would never take delight with any capital punishment. It is nothing but state sanctioned murder. I am reminded of the persons on death row in the States who were murdered unneccesarily and the 100 incarerated who were wrongly convicted and have been freed since 1973. http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12923 But something maybe we can agree on is a life sentence (meaning a life time behind bars) for murder. It is cheaper, a deterent, and is more punitive. And I admit it is a judge and sentencing issue here. Quote
crazymf Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Life behind bars is cheaper than a death penalty? Quote The trouble with the legal profession is that 98% of its members give the rest a bad name. Don't be humble - you're not that great. Golda Meir
GostHacked Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Life behind bars is cheaper than a death penalty? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would like to know this as well. What are the related costs on both instances? Also on the poem, I read it, and well, I am a sick ill twisted mind, so I liked it and I actually laughed at it. Sometimes we need a little un-PC stuff happening. Yes I get a sick pleasure when a convicted murderer gets the axe. Bernardo is one that I won't miss anytime soon. Carla should be spending life behind bars as well. She should have her head tied to Bernardo's when the bullet flies, so you only need one bullet. Keeping a person behind bars for life is humane plain and simple, in respects to their offenses. You will always have the factor of executing a complete innocent. This is where the anti-death penalty people pipe up. But in the case of the convicted confessing for thier sins, they should be put down. NEXT !!! Quote
newbie Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Life behind bars is cheaper than a death penalty? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Factor in costs of appeals. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108&scid=7 Quote
theloniusfleabag Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 Dear GostHacked, QUOTE(crazymf @ Jan 2 2006, 10:21 PM)Life behind bars is cheaper than a death penalty? I would like to know this as well. What are the related costs on both instances? from... http://www.udreview.com/media/paper781/new...ww.udreview.com "It costs roughly $2 million to execute someone in the United States and the bulk of that cost is not the appeals trials, but the investigation and the primary trial because of the extensive evidence required to get the death penalty," he said.from...http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/drowfacts.htm In Texas, anyway, the average time on death row is 10.43 years. I believe the cost of this would be in addition to the 2 million. The average age is 39, so let's split the difference and, for argument's sake, take 5 years off the average time and age, to a 34 yr old. Would it take 2 million to keep the 34 yr old alive until he/she died of natural causes? If it costs $61.58/day for an inmate, that 2 million roughly pays for 80+ years. Added to the average age of 34, that makes 114. Mind you, the cost of a non-death penalty court case hasn't been factored in, but you can roughly see where the figures come from. Quote Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?
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