normanchateau Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 I am not even a member of the CPC or any party for that matter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nor I. Quote
sharkman Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, I've said elsewhere that Martin's health is a concern. He's over 70 and this extra long grueling campaign in the winter may just prove too much for him. The latest poll numbers out today in the National Post say the Liberals have slipped to 34% and conservatives 31%. If his health fails, they will lose for sure. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, I've said elsewhere that Martin's health is a concern. He's over 70 and this extra long grueling campaign in the winter may just prove too much for him. The latest poll numbers out today in the National Post say the Liberals have slipped to 34% and conservatives 31%. If his health fails, they will lose for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Martin's 67 but you probably knew that and were looking for an excuse to say he looks over 70. In any event, even if Martin were dying it's inconceivable that Harper would ever pick up more than the hard core social and religious conservative vote which in Canada ranges from 20 to 30%. A good 70% of Canadians are not social or religious conservatives. That's why the former Progressive Conservative vote has eluded poor Stephen Harper. Quote
justcrowing Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, I've said elsewhere that Martin's health is a concern. He's over 70 and this extra long grueling campaign in the winter may just prove too much for him. The latest poll numbers out today in the National Post say the Liberals have slipped to 34% and conservatives 31%. If his health fails, they will lose for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A good 70% of Canadians are not social or religious conservatives. That's why the former Progressive Conservative vote has eluded poor Stephen Harper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where did you get the 70% figure? Please provide some proof of this. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, I've said elsewhere that Martin's health is a concern. He's over 70 and this extra long grueling campaign in the winter may just prove too much for him. The latest poll numbers out today in the National Post say the Liberals have slipped to 34% and conservatives 31%. If his health fails, they will lose for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A good 70% of Canadians are not social or religious conservatives. That's why the former Progressive Conservative vote has eluded poor Stephen Harper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where did you get the 70% figure? Please provide some proof of this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See the link in my first post on the thread Half of CPC MPs are "Religious Conservatives" Quote
justcrowing Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, I've said elsewhere that Martin's health is a concern. He's over 70 and this extra long grueling campaign in the winter may just prove too much for him. The latest poll numbers out today in the National Post say the Liberals have slipped to 34% and conservatives 31%. If his health fails, they will lose for sure. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A good 70% of Canadians are not social or religious conservatives. That's why the former Progressive Conservative vote has eluded poor Stephen Harper. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Where did you get the 70% figure? Please provide some proof of this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> See the link in my first post on the thread Half of CPC MPs are "Religious Conservatives" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, is this how you came to the 70% figure? "According to a 2003 Ipsos-Reid survey, only approximately 20% of the general Canadian population fits the description of a religious conservative. Mackey’s analysis adds that of the 308 MPs in Ottawa, 100 – over 32 percent – fit the description of a religious conservative. "[ that would reflect from all parties & MP's] “Take today's Tories and Stephen Harper out of Canada and plunk them in New Zealand and they would be to the left of Helen Clark's Labour government,” he said, as reported by the National Post. [ So much for being far right. ] Quote
normanchateau Posted December 3, 2005 Report Posted December 3, 2005 Oh, is this how you came to the 70% figure? "According to a 2003 Ipsos-Reid survey, only approximately 20% of the general Canadian population fits the description of a religious conservative. Mackey’s analysis adds that of the 308 MPs in Ottawa, 100 – over 32 percent – fit the description of a religious conservative. "[ that would reflect from all parties & MP's] “Take today's Tories and Stephen Harper out of Canada and plunk them in New Zealand and they would be to the left of Helen Clark's Labour government,” he said, as reported by the National Post. [ So much for being far right. ] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Correct, Harper's party would not be viewed as right wing in some other countries. But he's running in Canada. Quote
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