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On 12/16/2022 at 1:52 PM, Michael Hardner said:

"liberal" means pro-freedom, pro-business... classical liberal in other words

the networks loved Reagan by his 2nd term, given what he was doing for them

LIberal used to mean that, back in the days of Ludwig Von Mises, Ayn Rand, Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, laissez faire free market capitalism.

Rand herself used to chide the "conservative" element as those who were too resistant to change. At one time, conservative used to mean addicted to the past.

The term liberal completely changed after the Port Huron Statement (which I think you may have read about.) All of a sudden, liberal meant MARXIST, anti Capitalist, anti America, Anti Military, Anti free Speech. And it has only deteriorated into worse and worse forms over the years. It is now racist, totalitarian and totally ANTI free speech for those who disagree. It is pro crime, pro war, and pro mental illness.

The current concept of Conservative (which most of America is) was shaped by superior minds like William F. Buckley, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, Robert Bork etc. Today, conservative combines the best aspects of eighties/early nineties libertarianism (free markets, smaller government, liberty) with the rule of law, secure borders, and a strong military to protect our safety.

(Yes, the 1980s-90s Libertarians wanted to bring home and dismantle all our overseas military and embassies and replace them with fax machines. I read the party material back then and that's exactly what they suggested.)

The fake news TV networks HATED Reagan worse than a Democrat hates a job application. They STILL hate his memory even today. They still LIE about what he did.

 

(Hey, libs. THIS is how you carry on an intelligent discussion/debate. I'm pretty sure Hardner and I agree on very little. But we both seem to be a lot more civilized than to just engage in flaming. Maybe you boys and girls could learn a thing or two from the adults here.)

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On 12/16/2022 at 1:12 PM, TomT said:

Fox News Sets a New Record

The skill sets required to continuously invent conspiracy theories at Fox News is truly amazing. Their mastery of high-volume right-wing echo chamber orchestration is known, if not admired, world-wide. Not only are they creative, but have set a new speed record for the very difficult “180 flip.” It can now only to be measured in nanoseconds.

For weeks and weeks, the multi-millionaire talking heads at Fox News have waxed eloquent 24 hours a day about how Biden and the Democrats are protecting Sam Bankman-Fried, the failed founder of FTX, a digital coin scam. 7x24, Fox News has described ad nauseum a myriad of “facts” proving  Democrats are “protecting Sam from prosecution because his is a big contributor to Democrats. Their major theme is “if you are a big contributor to Democrats, they will protect you from prosecution for your crimes.” i.e. Democrats are criminally corrupt…

Then old Sam was arrested and charged with 8 felonies associated with his crimes. Before the ink was even dry on the arrest warrants, the “Spin Masters” at Fox News announced that “new facts” prove Sam was only arrested to prevent him from “talking.” Implying, Sam was going say something ugly about Democrats…. So, as usual, speaking to their worshiping viewer base, Fox News was able to go from “The facts are that Democrats are protecting Sam and will never arrest him” to “The Facts are Democrats are only arresting Sam to keep him from talking….” “And this time we mean it….” At Fox News, “facts” disappear faster than an Ethiopian chicken.

Of course, the Fox Bull Horn failed to cover the “news” that old Sam contributed about as much to Republican PACS and down dark money Republican rat holes as he gave to Democrats. But you will have to actually go to a real new source to get “Fair and Balanced” coverage without an Echo. (evil Democrats) Echo. (evil democrats) Echo. Ditto.

Ethiopian chicken? Can't imagine there being much meat on one of those creatures, not if the humans there are scrounging around for any kind of sustenance in sight.

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On 12/16/2022 at 1:46 PM, Rebound said:

How can a “corporate lean” be liberal? 

Well, there IS the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, (which is as liberal as it gets.)

CNN, PMSNBC are both corporations. They are about as fair and balanced as THE VIEW.

I learned this in real estate school. A corporation is a (and I quote) "an artificial person created by the Secretary Of State." Exact words. Nope, I don't understand that part either, but it's the Florida secretary of state.

You file for incorporation, for being an LLC, a Chapter S Corporation, or a limited/general partnership. And last time I checked, there were no ideology requirements for filing for those entities.

 

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Yo, Reason 10 

Fox News out competes all the rest? 

Fox is the ONLY true news for now. It out competes the liberal rags (CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC) because people do not want to watch NOTHING BUT LIBERALISM 24/7.

https://today.yougov.com/ratings/entertainment/popularity/news-websites/all

https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/most-popular-websites-news-us-monthly-3/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/381569/leading-news-and-media-sites-usa-by-share-of-visits/

Apparantly you got the information about Fox News being the biggest and most popular news site from......let me guess.....Fox News?

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3 hours ago, reason10 said:

Fox is the ONLY true news for now. It out competes the liberal rags (CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC) because people do not want to watch NOTHING BUT LIBERALISM 24/7.

Rush Limbaugh was perhaps the earliest pioneer of the idea of upending the left wing monopoly on public opinion, by putting together the most successful radio talk show in history. He expanded to hundreds of markets nationwide. Of course, he never pretended to be anything other than mainstream conservative, like most of America.

Fox pisses you goose steppers off because it gives EQUAL TIME to both sides of the aisle. That's why it kicks CNN's propagandan ass at every turn, in every time slot. (That and because Fox has the most professional production value on television.)

There are some right wing networks out there: OneAmerica. NewsMax. But be careful. They are expanding their markets and soon may be competing with Fox, when they expand the ideology pool. Already both of them are less political and biased as CNN and the other fake news rags.

It's all free market competition in action. And the public wins out in the long run, especially when most of the public is better informed. Fox is better at informing the public than any other source.

It ONLY "out competes" SIX OTHER stations, because their audience FOR TRUE NEWS is SPLIT.

You're so uneducated, you don't even know why Fox was created.

Why Fox News was created

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In 1970, political consultant Roger Ailes and other Nixon aides came up with a plan to create a new TV network that would circumvent existing media and provide "pro-administration" coverage to millions. "People are lazy," the aides explained in a memo. "With television you just sit — watch — listen. The thinking is done for you." Nixon embraced the idea, saying he and his supporters needed "our own news" from a network that would lead "a brutal, vicious attack on the opposition."

We live in a far different country today, thanks to the vision originally outlined in that 1970 memo, which Ailes realized decades later with Rupert Murdoch's money. Fox News provides an alternative reality to the "fake news," providing daily talking points to Republican elected officials and policing them the way a sheepdog does its flock. Those who dare stand up to President Trump know they will be denounced as traitors on Fox, even if they're war veterans with a Purple Heart on their chests. In Foxworld, no evidence can prove that Trump tried to extort Ukraine into interfering in the 2020 U.S. presidential election — and if he did, so what? If the president beats the impeachment rap in the Republican Senate, as he's likely to do, he should send a thank-you card to Roger Ailes and Richard Nixon, wherever they may now be.

IOW, Fox was created to serve Republican politicians, NOT REPOST the TRUE NEWS

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12 hours ago, robosmith said:

It ONLY "out competes" SIX OTHER stations, because their audience FOR TRUE NEWS is SPLIT.

You're so uneducated, you don't even know why Fox was created.

Why Fox News was created

IOW, Fox was created to serve Republican politicians, NOT REPOST the TRUE NEWS

You go to a hack left wing site, one that has ZERO credibility and somehow you believe those liars? Are you REALLY that stupid?

A couple of things:

1. Nixon died in 1994. FoxNews was created in 1996. You effing CHILDREN are too stupid to recognize a LIE in a bullschit rag like The Week. HAD PRESIDENT NIXON VOICED ANY OPINIONS WHATSOEVER ABOUT WANTING A NETWORK OF HIS OWN FROM 1969 TO 1974, EVERY LEFT WING MONOPOLY RAG  AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE REPORTED IT 24/7. Most of you children have parents who weren't born until AFTER that time, so there's no way you would know this. Nixon was a gold mine for news ratings. Mention his name and everybody tuned in.

2. Nixon was one of the most LIBERAL presidents of all time. He had a left wing legislative record that Obama, KKKlinton, hell even Bernie Sanders would masturbate over. The LAST thing he would want would be a conservative network. Hell, he appointed Justice Blackmun to the bench, creating ROE, and giving FemiNAZIS decades of euphoria over legalized baby killings.

3. Conservatism such as what exists today, (and what most of America believes) DID NOT EVEN EXIST in the early Seventies. It was fostered and refined by Ronald Reagan, William F. Buckley and Rush LImbaugh, mostly in the 80s.

4. And another detail you low information cretins apparently missed, by spending so much time on crystal meth. THE NEVER TRUMPER MOVEMENT ORIGINATED AT FOX NEWS. In fact, most of Fox's polls are skewed to favor Democrats.

 

Just shut up, bozos. You REALLY look like cretins now, with this brainless attack on FoxNews.

What's next? THE VIEW? CNN? PMSNBC?

FoxNews enjoys the highest ratings in the world because more people tune it in, than the goose stepping left wing fake news rags like CNN, PMS, ABC, NBC. Fox is kicking their communist asses in ratings, not for any reason other than Fox offers BALANCED reporting, giving free time to both sides of the aisle.

Giving fair coverage is something you Nazis are physically allergic to.

 

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