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Stephen Harper alleges federal Liberals would be deeper under criminal investigation if they weren't in power.

Martin's asking the RCMP to further investigate potential Liberal misconduct shows how John Gomery's report on the sponsership scandal could quickly spiral into a political-legal storm.

You be the judge!

http://www.metronews.ca/news_detail.asp?id=11941

I find it hard to admit that they'd be in that much more trouble. I mean, after all, we have heard some pretty nasty stuff already.

I think we must assume, even if we are anti-Liberal, that this is just a ploy by Harper to try and make us think he should be PM.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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I find it hard to admit that they'd be in that much more trouble.  I mean, after all, we have heard some pretty nasty stuff already.

I think we must assume, even if we are anti-Liberal, that this is just a ploy by Harper to try and make us think he should be PM.

Uhhh, Gomery went out of his way to be easy on Martin. So yes, they could be in much, much more trouble.

Ploy? Tactic? Manouever?

Call it what you will, but isn't the job of Official Leader of the Opposition to present an alternative to the Government?

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I find it hard to admit that they'd be in that much more trouble.  I mean, after all, we have heard some pretty nasty stuff already.

I think we must assume, even if we are anti-Liberal, that this is just a ploy by Harper to try and make us think he should be PM.

Uhhh, Gomery went out of his way to be easy on Martin. So yes, they could be in much, much more trouble.

Ploy? Tactic? Manouever?

Call it what you will, but isn't the job of Official Leader of the Opposition to present an alternative to the Government?

I had a chance to watch a great deal of the Gomery commission and read the accompanying text. I'm not sure I would say that the Justice went out of his way to exonerate Martin. The proof for that is not there. I also think that Harper is going to milk the report for all it's worth. If he loses the election this time, a leadership review will probably be in order. As far as presenting an alternative, all I have heard out of Harper is accusation and anger from day one.

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I had a chance to watch a great deal of the Gomery commission and read the accompanying text. I'm not sure I would say that the Justice went out of his way to exonerate Martin. The proof for that is not there. I also think that Harper is going to milk the report for all it's worth. If he loses the election this time, a leadership review will probably be in order. As far as presenting an alternative, all I have heard out of Harper is accusation and anger from day one.

Uh, sure.

If it is a minority Liberal government there will be leadership conventions for both major parties. Which is probably going to be what happens...

The Conservatives have tons of policies. When was the last time you looked at their Web site? Oh that's right much easier to attack the enemy on false grounds than actually do your research. My bad. :lol:

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The Conservatives have tons of policies. When was the last time you looked at their Web site? Oh that's right much easier to attack the enemy on false grounds than actually do your research. My bad.  :lol:

I didn't say the Conservative didn't have policies. But you have to admit Harper's public appearances re the media pretty much show him whining about Liberals (my "false grounds"??). I have yet to hear a commercial or see anything in the media as of late where Harper talks about his great and wonderful programs.

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The Conservatives have tons of policies. When was the last time you looked at their Web site? Oh that's right much easier to attack the enemy on false grounds than actually do your research. My bad.  :lol:

I didn't say the Conservative didn't have policies. But you have to admit Harper's public appearances re the media pretty much show him whining about Liberals (my "false grounds"??). I have yet to hear a commercial or see anything in the media as of late where Harper talks about his great and wonderful programs.

Apparently they aired in Ontario and can be found somewhere on the conservative website.

As for Conservatives advertising their policies, it appears that that doesn't work and that polls for them go up when Gomery hangs the Liberals out to dry.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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I didn't say the Conservative didn't have policies. But you have to admit Harper's public appearances re the media pretty much show him whining about Liberals (my "false grounds"??). I have yet to hear a commercial or see anything in the media as of late where Harper talks about his great and wonderful programs.

Yeah, those ads got tons of notice. They are still on the Web site if you want to take a look. Best way to look at him, Harper can't control how the media portrays him...

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Of course the Conservatives have policies. They have one for every tax except taxes on the lower income earners. Cut them and everything else fliws from that.

Why, Harper even said so when he criticized Layton for making a deal with the Liberals. He suggested that the Conservatives could do the same if the Liberals would agree to cut taxes.

It is prostitution to support the Liberals if they will improve the lot of the people, but it is....... -supply your own word if you will give more to the rich and beggar the poor.

That's Harper. And that sums up his view of the Gomery report.

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