Should CN Have Its Railway Licence Revoked?

[mirror]

CN donates $250,000 to salmon recovery project

I think they should have their licence revoked. It would serve as a warning to others that this kind of operation and behavior is not acceptable.

[cybercoma]

CN donates $250,000 to salmon recovery project

I think they should have their licence revoked. It would serve as a warning to others that this kind of operation and behavior is not acceptable.

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Is there evidence that CN is to blame for the accidents?

If CN is the cause, either through negligence or whatever, then yeah their license should be revoked; however, if there is no connection and they were simply unavoidable accidents, then no.

[Argus]

CN donates $250,000 to salmon recovery project

I think they should have their licence revoked. It would serve as a warning to others that this kind of operation and behavior is not acceptable.

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Is there evidence that CN is to blame for the accidents?

If CN is the cause, either through negligence or whatever, then yeah their license should be revoked; however, if there is no connection and they were simply unavoidable accidents, then no.

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And if you guys "revoke" their licence, presuming they have one, who do you think is going to carry all that stuff to and from our ports?

[Renegade]

So mirror, in this thread Canada needs to rebuild its railway system you propose getting the trucks of the road, now you say CN should have its licence revoked.

How exactly are you proposing that goods be shipped around Canada? Surely you are aware that CP and CN don't have access to the same rail lines and that CP doesn't have the capacity to handle all the goods which would need to be shipped.

Have you even thought of the implications of your proposal?

[SirSpanky]

Slap them with a large fine, and supervise reforms, but shutting them down is not the answer. Especially with our crumbling highway/road infrastructure.

[crazymf]

Sorry, but discussion of shutting down our railway is moot. Ain't happening so no use discussing it.

Also, the warning to others? What others? I don't know for sure but there can't be more than say, 2, major railways in Canada? Maybe a few smaller branch carriers.

[kimmy]

CN donates $250,000 to salmon recovery project

I think they should have their licence revoked. It would serve as a warning to others that this kind of operation and behavior is not acceptable.

Is there evidence that CN is to blame for the accidents?

If CN is the cause, either through negligence or whatever, then yeah their license should be revoked; however, if there is no connection and they were simply unavoidable accidents, then no.

The cause of the derailment at Wabamun is under investigation but it is likely faulty rail. I would assume CN is responsible for maintaining the track.

CN has also been underfire for not disclosing that aside from the fuel-oil that spilled, highly toxic, carcinogenic pole-treating (wood-preservative) oil was also spilled into the lake. (The volunteers could probably wish they had that information before they entered the lake to place containment booms and rescue wildlife...) CN had initially claimed that the Imperial tanker car contained "lube oil", not pole treating oil.

Aside from environmental damage and leaving the residents without drinking water and loss of tourist revenue for area businesses (the area is a popular weekend destination just west of Edmonton) the spill has also forced TransAlta Utilities to shut down the 279 megawatt power generating station at Wabamun. TransAlta pegs the cost of the shut down at $5 to $6 million to date, and says that it will seek full reimbursement "from those responsible" for the derailment.

so.... I guess they're the only rail company we have, and we can't exactly do without them... but this thing has been a complete disaster. CN will of course be paying tons of money to all the people affected by this, as well as for cleaning it up, and they should... but the end result of that will probably only hurt their customers. If there was willful deception regarding the contents of the Imperial tanker, then somebody ought to see jail time, I would say.

-k

[mirror]

Is CN public, private or a mixed public-private business now?

[Renegade]

CN is private.

[shoop]

What is a mixed public-private business? Never heard that term before...

[mirror]

CN incidents are becoming like the Energizer bunny. They just keep coming and coming:

Another CN train derails

The four cars from a CN Rail train that derailed near Prince George on Friday added to the mounting number of mishaps that have plagued the company this month.

It was the fifth accident involving the company's equipment since the beginning of August.

Four cars from a 23-car train jumped the track Friday afternoon at the old B.C. Rail station in Hixon, 63 kilometres south of Prince George, said a company spokesman.

One car carried sodium chlorate, a chemical used in the pulp and paper industry

According to the Extension Toxicology Network website, a single five- to 10-gram dose of sodium chlorate can be fatal in adults.

[I Miss Trudeau]

Is CN public, private or a mixed public-private business  now?

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Private, and, incidentally, determined to lose every customer it has.

[kimmy]

CN is private.

You can tell because the CEO is named "Hunter", and not "Marc-Andre" or "Jean-Paul".

-k

[mirror]

Is CN public, private or a mixed public-private business  now?

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Private, and, incidentally, determined to lose every customer it has.

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If that's their goal they should easily accomplish it.

What a public relations disaster CN is in. Better call in Hills and Knowlton.