Centerpiece Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 It's almost impossible to tell the difference in skin colour between Indian/Pakistani (broadly called South Asian) and the Black community when you're stopping a car - especially at night........yet we don't hear any issues emanating from those communities. The South Asian community is 50% larger than the Black community. Again, it's difficult to ignore the likely fact that Blacks are simply putting themselves in situations that lead to Police upholding the law. And again, I'll site the most important piece of missing information: how many "violent interactions" were the result of police responding to a call? Why on earth is it so bad to report that more crime occurs in the Black community? If you don't accept it, you can't rationally deal with it. It's utterly frustrating that the usual suspects shout "racism". The magnitude of the issue goes far beyond a few biased police officers. And really - we do know what the problems are - dealing with them is another matter. Quote
turningrite Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Centerpiece said: It's almost impossible to tell the difference in skin colour between Indian/Pakistani (broadly called South Asian) and the Black community when you're stopping a car - especially at night........yet we don't hear any issues emanating from those communities. The South Asian community is 50% larger than the Black community. Again, it's difficult to ignore the likely fact that Blacks are simply putting themselves in situations that lead to Police upholding the law. And again, I'll site the most important piece of missing information: how many "violent interactions" were the result of police responding to a call? Why on earth is it so bad to report that more crime occurs in the Black community? If you don't accept it, you can't rationally deal with it. It's utterly frustrating that the usual suspects shout "racism". The magnitude of the issue goes far beyond a few biased police officers. And really - we do know what the problems are - dealing with them is another matter. It's very problematic that we collect victim statistics delineated according to race relating to police behavior while we no longer collect actual crime statistics based on race. From the point of view of academic and statistical objectivity, this renders the victim statistics we collect essentially meaningless. There are clearly problems in the relationship between the police and the black populations in some areas, including the GTA, just as there are between the police and indigenous populations in other areas of the country. But it's difficult to figure out who benefits from the decision to prioritize political correctness over objectivity where crime and race statistics are concerned. Quote
Bonam Posted December 13, 2018 Report Posted December 13, 2018 26 minutes ago, turningrite said: But it's difficult to figure out who benefits from the decision to prioritize political correctness over objectivity where crime and race statistics are concerned. Ideologues of all stripes always want to silence any scientific inquiry that might contradict their ideology. Quote
eyeball Posted December 18, 2018 Report Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 11:17 AM, Bonam said: Ideologues of all stripes always want to silence any scientific inquiry that might contradict their ideology. Unfortunately here on Planet Babel science is an ideology too so...we're screwed no matter which way we turn. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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