Argus Posted August 17, 2005 Report Posted August 17, 2005 Let me put it another way. On what basis do you refer to Gregg as a "reputable" pollster and suggest he would not, however slightly, tailor a poll to the taste of those paying hm for that poll. I mean, in the days where "reputable" companies like Arthur Anderson are caught tailoring their audits to suit corporate customers who says comparatively piddling little pollsters like Gregg wouldn't do the same? And please don't say the entire corporate world learned a lesson from Arthur Anderson. Some did, some didn't. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Canadian Association of Journalists covers reputable pollsters in their code of ethics. "We should use polls prominently only when we know the full context of the results: the names of the sponsor and the polling agency; the population from which the sample was drawn; the sample size, margin of error, type of interview; the dates when the poll was taken and the exact wording and order of the questions. When possible we should broadcast or publish this information. Polls commissioned by special interest groups and politically sponsored think tanks and institutes are especially suspect. It is easy to frame questions or choose a sample designed to produce an answer favourable to a point of view." Gregg's polls get used prominently, ergo they have met the above criteria. Oh. Well that works. You just have to trust in the neutrality and professionalism of Canadian journalists. Uhmmmm..... Dude, the analogy to the Enron/Arthur Andersen scandal is tenous and lame. Most big pollsters in Canada do political work as a means of building name recognition for the big money ... market research. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Dude, what makes you think the corporate honchos who hire them don't have axes to grind and ideas to push and don't want a tailor made poll which supports their positions? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
shoop Posted August 17, 2005 Report Posted August 17, 2005 Oh.Well that works. You just have to trust in the neutrality and professionalism of Canadian journalists. Uhmmmm..... Dude, what makes you think the corporate honchos who hire them don't have axes to grind and ideas to push and don't want a tailor made poll which supports their positions? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That is the beauty of believing in conspiracy theories. Requires no proof. Don't believe in pollsters. Why? because... Don't beilieve in journalists. Why? because... Are you talking about "corporate honchos" with axes to grind in opinion polls? Again goes back to credibility. Say you have two national political opinion polls, one for CBC and one for CTV. With "corporate honchos" pushing agendas of the left and right respectively. Pretend it's an election, so it is reasonable for the CTV and CBC to conduct and/or release polls at the same time. If their polls reveal radically different results it would call into question the credibility of both pollsters automatically. Funny thing though, competing pollsters don't conference to make sure their results are the same. (Or do they? ) Quote
mirror Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Posted August 17, 2005 Apparently our government is thinking of imposing some sort of tariff on California wines, etc., so it does appear we are embarking upon some sort of trade war with the US to counter the softwood lumber duties. Buckle up folks as this might get a bit painful. Quote
mirror Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Posted August 17, 2005 Interesting stats on the oil industry. Chart Canada produces 3.14 million barrels a day. Canada consumes 2.3 million barrels a day. So I presume Canada exports 0.84 million barrels a day. Quote
Leader Circle Posted August 17, 2005 Report Posted August 17, 2005 Interesting stats on the oil industry. Chart Canada produces 3.14 million barrels a day. Canada consumes 2.3 million barrels a day. So I presume Canada exports 0.84 million barrels a day. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah, knowing Canada we export 3 million and we import 2.16 million at a much higher price! Good ole left wing economics! Kind of like our lumber, we produce it here, cut it up into smaller pieces, send it to Vancouver, they hold it for a couple weeks, and send it back at 10X the price! Quote Why pay money to have your family tree traced; go into politics and your opponents will do it for you. ~Author Unknown
mirror Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Posted August 17, 2005 Nah, knowing Canada we export 3 million and we import 2.16 million at a much higher price! Good ole left wing economics! Gotta love your right wing ideology with no substance to back up your arguments. What utter rubbish! Quote
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