Provincial liberal in quebec suffer too

[Bakunin]

Here is the lastest poll in quebec after the brault alegation:

PQ 47%

ADQ 25%

PLQ 21%

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This mean that the ADQ and the PLQ together have less % than the PQ. Ive never seen that... Some liberal are publicly talking of getting rid of jean charest.

[August1991]

Thanks, Bakunin, for starting this thread.

Some 8 of 10 Quebecers don't want Charest. This rises to 9 of 10 among francophones. (To be honest, Landry is not greatly liked either.)

This Quebec Liberal government will not be re-elected with Charest as leader. Quebecers, once again, are facing a choice and Canada, once again, is falling into a crisis of Conscription, Air Traffic Controller proportions. Maybe Phillipe Couillard can pull this one out of the fire.

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BTW, it is openly noted that Charest's baptismal name is John James Charest.

I have liked Gilles Duceppe's response to such comments. (Allow a long quote from Hansard. I don't know who Ken Epp is):

Mr. Ken Epp: Mr. Speaker, I wish others would get into the debate as well.

    I certainly agree with the Bloc members when I observe that on many instances the federal government has encroached on provincial jurisdiction. I think that is wrong and I agree with them.

    From the western perspective, the problem with Ottawa is in that sense very similar to the problem that Quebec has with Ottawa. The federal government has adversely used its spending power. It has intruded into areas of provincial jurisdiction and usually to considerable detriment to the outcome, for example, health care. I think there is a lot of room for working closely with the provinces. We must always recognize the supreme jurisdiction of the provinces over the delivery of health care.

    There are a number of other areas. I recognize and acknowledge that. I also recognize and acknowledge that Canada is a wonderful country. Canada is comprised of all the provinces from Newfoundland and Labrador in the east all the way to British Columbia in the west and the Northwest Territories.

    I was born in Saskatchewan. I am a member of the Saskatchewan community and a strong Canadian. My parents immigrated to this country when they were very young, and so I am a first generation Canadian. I cannot forget how my grandparents were grateful that they could come to this country.

    I love Canada and I wish that they too loved Canada as the rest of us do.

[Translation]

    Mr. Gilles Duceppe: Mr. Speaker, we have things in common. My grandfather too came from another country. He was from Great Britain. My mother's maiden name is Rowley, and she is a proud sovereignist and Quebecker. This has nothing to do with the fact that my grandfather was born in London.

[English]

    I also love Canada. It will not stop me from loving Canada because Quebec is a sovereign country.

    I am sure the hon. member likes the United States. Does he want to be an American because of that? Certainly not. It is because he is proud to be a Canadian. We see the difference and the importance in being a sovereign country. I am sure that the member believes in that.

    I also believe that Quebec should be a sovereign country. Sovereignty is good for Canada. It is certainly not a disease for Quebeckers and that is the point.

    I respect the United States as he respects the United States; however, he does not want to be an American. I respect Canada, but I do not want to be a Canadian. I am proud Quebecker and I want to have friendly links with Canada and that is it. I have nothing against Canada, just a plain difference.

House of Commons Hansard

[Guest eureka]

I don't know what there is to like about Duceppe's response. It seems to show the limitations of his mind that were always there and he has not improved.

His attempt to liken the feeling for a foreign, and very different, society to love of country is rather feeble in my opinion.

[Bakunin]

I like Duceppe, he his a good politican and he is connected with the quebec society like no other politician is curently. A little bit like Lévesque was.

As for the PLQ, hmm im not sure about Couillard. There is no doubt he is a good guy but he has the same problem Fournier has, he doesn't have what it take to be a leader and give order. Yves Séguin has what it take to be a leader.

Honestly i hope Seguin bring charest down, if he can't i hope we will join the PQ.