The Terrible Sweal Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 One can frequently hear people say things like "It's our duty to help the poor/the thirf world/disaster victims/whoever". But what is the source and nature of such 'obligations'? Why should we help tsunami victims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageSlave Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 It's a complicated question, the fact is that "we" as individuals can't do anything for anyone. "We" need to start making ourselves a "we", before it is even near possible to end the imperialism that causes much of the hunger, ignorance, and homelessness. On the tsunami subject, if the western ruling class were forced to stop extracting the wealth from these countries, they would have the technology to help themselves, and there would be little need for aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantler Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Governments the world over sent money to the tsunami victims. Then, in these same countries, organizations ask for individual donations. It may sound heartless, but I did not participate in those. The governments do not just magically come up with the millions they sent. It is taxpayers money so really, we all already participated in relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PocketRocket Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Why should we help tsunami victims? For the same reason that farmers all pitched in to help rebuild a neighbour's barn that had burned down, instead of letting the poor chump do it for himself, IOW, because we can. Quote I need another coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Why should we help tsunami victims? Because our physical biology gives us the instinct to help others, because helping others makes the clan stronger. Why should we not help ? Because our biology gives us the instinct to be selfish, because taking care of ourselves makes us stronger as individuals. It's all in the biology. That was easy. Quote  Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Why should we help tsunami victims?The same reason why you would want help if you needed it in a time of crisis. Not only are we selfish beings we are social ones, therefore the social aspect of us requires that we also need someone else, for whatever the reasons. In this case the victims needed help from other countries not directly impacted by the big wave. And is it not just the right thing to do. We are not idepedent of each other, what affects you affects me whether directly or indirectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfie Canadian Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 Because survival of the fittest isn't always the way to live life. From a purely practical stand point, if you show mercy and compassion, mercy and compassion may be shown to you should you one day need it. Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe Posted February 18, 2005 Report Share Posted February 18, 2005 You mean from a purely Theorectical standpoint, if you show mercy and compassion, mercy and compassion it may be shown to you, should you one day need it. From a practical standpoint people don't show mercy or compassion unless their is an immediate pay off, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grantler Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 IE. Save Iraq...but take some OIL! Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PocketRocket Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 From a practical standpoint people don't show mercy or compassion unless their is an immediate pay off, unfortunately. I agree with this in part, but only if you add the rider "some people" and "Material payoff". A lot of folks do not seeks any material payoff, for many the satisfaction of knowing they have helped is payoff enough. Quote I need another coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloe Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Yes, that is what I meant. There are those few that can show mercy and compassion without wanting anything in return or show compassion because it will make them feel better about themselves. I just wish the world community can show such compassion to every nation less fortunate all the time and not just when the media will be able to glorify their so-called "selfless act" of generousity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Terrible Sweal Posted February 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 i found everyone's responses interesting, but I think i may have posed my query inperfectly. what i wanted to investigate is what is the nature/content of those things we consider moral "obligations" ? what is the character of the oblgation? when someone says we 'should' or 'must' help, are they merely using a shorthand phrasing for 'it would be wise/kind/useful to...' , or is there a more imperative quality to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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