Altai Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 After the fake reports published by European and American credit rating agencies about rapidly rising Turkish economy to prevent foreign investments in Turkiye, Turkiye is preparing to buy largest European companies including Germany's Deutsche Bank.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-28/erdogan-adviser-says-turkey-should-consider-buying-deutsche-bank Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
DogOnPorch Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 Why are they fake? Not Turk news. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Rue Posted September 29, 2016 Report Posted September 29, 2016 It appears S+P, Moody's and Fitch have al downgraded Turkey's credit rating due to the "failed coups" to junk status. Altai may not like that but its very real. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/standard-poors-downgrades-turkeys-credit-rating/ http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/moodys-downgrades-turkeys-credit-rating-junk-status-42319734 http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/20/fitch-cuts-turkey-rating-outlook-to-negative-in-wake-of-failed-coup-attempt.html Quote
Altai Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) I think we should buy a car company from Europe. This will help us to develop our own car technology. For example we could buy Saab, they were about the go bankrupt or we could buy Opel or Chevrolet from US. These companies were experiencing bad days economically. Edited September 29, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Benz Posted September 30, 2016 Report Posted September 30, 2016 I think we should buy a car company from Europe. This will help us to develop our own car technology. For example we could buy Saab, they were about the go bankrupt or we could buy Opel or Chevrolet from US. These companies were experiencing bad days economically. Your country already have a car industry. Alot of companies are employing your people. It is not necessarly a bad idea to have a turkish car but, it's a very competitive world. Make sure you know what you are trying to do that. I am not sure buying a duck with a broken wing is the solution. I do not know very well the industries and your economy but, I am sure the nationalisation of few enterprises in your country could benefit you more than any capitalists would admit. Mostly regarding resources and all kind of energy sources. I doubt the reports you are talking about are fakes. The Erdogan's "coup d'état" is certainly having a bad effect but, nothing to bring down your economy. The major financial companies are rats that get allergic to anything that is not stable. You snooze, they freak out. They are responsaible of the 2008's crash and they made the biggest stealing in human history with the complicity of many governments, mostly USA. With the consequences that honest citizens are getting robbed by the ones who are responsible for their losses. So whenever they tell something about the economy, my usual answer is, "yeah, whatever". Quote
Altai Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Your country already have a car industry. Alot of companies are employing your people. It is not necessarly a bad idea to have a turkish car but, it's a very competitive world. Make sure you know what you are trying to do that. I am not sure buying a duck with a broken wing is the solution. I do not know very well the industries and your economy but, I am sure the nationalisation of few enterprises in your country could benefit you more than any capitalists would admit. Mostly regarding resources and all kind of energy sources. I doubt the reports you are talking about are fakes. The Erdogan's "coup d'état" is certainly having a bad effect but, nothing to bring down your economy. The major financial companies are rats that get allergic to anything that is not stable. You snooze, they freak out. They are responsaible of the 2008's crash and they made the biggest stealing in human history with the complicity of many governments, mostly USA. With the consequences that honest citizens are getting robbed by the ones who are responsible for their losses. So whenever they tell something about the economy, my usual answer is, "yeah, whatever". We also produce our electric cars, prototypes are going to be released soon for road tests. These cars will be fully electric motors as like Tesla. These rating agencies are giving A plus notes to the collapsed EU countries, they also said that Turkish economy is stable just 2 days before they dropped our credit ratings. This was probably because of President Erdogan's harsh speech during NewYork UN meeting. Your countries are trying to harm our economy and this is not a friendly attitude. Your govts dont behave like an ally but they behave like our enemies. Edited September 30, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Posted September 30, 2016 Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Benz Posted September 30, 2016 Report Posted September 30, 2016 We also produce our electric cars, prototypes are going to be released soon for road tests. These cars will be fully electric motors as like Tesla. These rating agencies are giving A plus notes to the collapsed EU countries, they also said that Turkish economy is stable just 2 days before they dropped our credit ratings. This was probably because of President Erdogan's harsh speech during NewYork UN meeting. Your countries are trying to harm our economy and this is not a friendly attitude. Your govts dont behave like an ally but they behave like our enemies. They did far worst than that. If you want to known how bad the foreign policies of USA were in the last 60 years, I strongly suggest you to watch the documentary The Untold History of USA by Oliver Stone. Canada use to have a better reputation but, we are not 100% clean either. We were accomplice by association of the guerilla activities causing death and damages among civilians by closing our eyes on a canadian company our leaders knew they were sponsoring it. Be cautious Altai. You belong to the turkish people, not your political leaders. A healthy democratic country allows you to be critical to your leaders. But in regards of what happened recently, your democracy is experiencing a dark time. If you close your eyes on those actions, you become an accomplice and you do not serve the interests of your nation which are in contradiction of your leader's interests. 99% of the time, when a war occurs, it's because of leaders' political interests, not because of the people. Same principle for all possible political conflicts. Quote
Altai Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Posted October 1, 2016 (edited) Be cautious Altai. You belong to the turkish people, not your political leaders. A healthy democratic country allows you to be critical to your leaders. But in regards of what happened recently, your democracy is experiencing a dark time. You are brainwashed about my country. So there is no need to talk more and I see that its impossible for our countries to stay as "allies" for ever. We will be enemies in the future, be ready for that. We are also enemies now but we just dont declare it. We just pretend that we are "friends". Edited October 1, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Benz Posted October 3, 2016 Report Posted October 3, 2016 You are brainwashed about my country. So there is no need to talk more and I see that its impossible for our countries to stay as "allies" for ever. We will be enemies in the future, be ready for that. We are also enemies now but we just dont declare it. We just pretend that we are "friends". One thing for sure, you are very binary and no one can blame you to be ambivalent. If I am brainwashed, why don't you show me the truth? Are all those massive arrests are a lie? You know, it would not be the first time that we receive wrong information. Remember the was in the ex-Yougoslavia? At some point, the journalists were saying that there are massive genocides, up to 100 000 civilian people killed and piled up into a pit. Few years later, we discovered the numbers were very exagerated. It was rather 8k and the authorities condemned the actions instead of promoting it. I know that stories are never simple. I have no trust in medias supporting USA. It is no coincidence that this Coup d'état is happening at the same time that Turkey and Russia are getting on the same page. The CIA is funding false charity organisations and that is just a facade. They are rather supporting Fethullah Gülen. The americans are not pleased at all that Ankara puts its focus on a Eurasia interests rather than the NATO. Considering the VERY, very, very, very bad reputations the americans have in middle east, I would not be surprised at all that the CIA has something to do with it. That does not excuse all those arrestations... unless they are widely exagerated? As always, I know that someday we will find out the truth. One thing for sure, for the very very very little I know, it seems that I do know more than you. Quote
Altai Posted October 4, 2016 Author Report Posted October 4, 2016 One thing for sure, you are very binary and no one can blame you to be ambivalent. If I am brainwashed, why don't you show me the truth? Are all those massive arrests are a lie? You know, it would not be the first time that we receive wrong information. Remember the was in the ex-Yougoslavia? At some point, the journalists were saying that there are massive genocides, up to 100 000 civilian people killed and piled up into a pit. Few years later, we discovered the numbers were very exagerated. It was rather 8k and the authorities condemned the actions instead of promoting it. I know that stories are never simple. I have no trust in medias supporting USA. It is no coincidence that this Coup d'état is happening at the same time that Turkey and Russia are getting on the same page. The CIA is funding false charity organisations and that is just a facade. They are rather supporting Fethullah Gülen. The americans are not pleased at all that Ankara puts its focus on a Eurasia interests rather than the NATO. Considering the VERY, very, very, very bad reputations the americans have in middle east, I would not be surprised at all that the CIA has something to do with it. That does not excuse all those arrestations... unless they are widely exagerated? As always, I know that someday we will find out the truth. One thing for sure, for the very very very little I know, it seems that I do know more than you. Turkiye was a country directly controlled by Britain and USA. Like as your British controlled Canada. Now current Turkish govt is getting rid of these British and USA backed formations in Turkish state. So its IMPOSSIBLE for you to hear anything good about our country, because your states will do anything to wash your brains to blame Turkish govt. I can simply say that the persons which you call as "journalists" are "criminals". Recently we have jailed two of them too for supporting the recent coup and cooperation with terror organizations. Having a journalist ID card does not give you a right to be a terrorist, it also does not make you a untouchable God. I think jail is a good option. There would happen some other things which is worse than being jailed. So they would be hit by truck on the way back home or they would be found dead in their bed. I think we have the World's freest media, I dont think there is any other countries in the World with a media ceaselessly creates fake news about their own govts or ceaselessly insults-humiliate their own govts. Today its not a crime but absolutely it should be a crime to create false/fake news about anyone or anything and such media organs should be fined and finally should be closed. Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
Altai Posted October 8, 2016 Author Report Posted October 8, 2016 (edited) Turkish Businessman; "Moddy's send hidden letters to the Gulf countries to prevent them to invest in Turkiye." LoL our "allies" at work again : ) Does these countries really believe that they can prevent Gulf countries to invest in Turkiye : ) Gulf countries will take all their money from Europe and US and will invest in Turkiye.http://www.star.com.tr/ekonomi/agaoglu-moodys-korfez-parasinin-turkiyeye-gelmesini-istemiyor-haber-1147505/ Edited October 8, 2016 by Altai Quote "You cant ask people about their belief, its none of your business, its between them and their God but you have to ask them whether or not they need something or they have a problem to be solved." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror"We are not intended to conquer someone's lands but we want to conquer hearts." Ottoman Sultan, Mehmed The Conqueror
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