Republican Party of Canada?

Cartman · November 25, 2004

Although I usually disagreed with the ideas put forth by the federal Progressive Conservatives, I always thought that they were a "Canadian brand." I think that the current Alberta PC's are a Canadian brand as well. I am not so sure about the CPC's. Are they essentially Republicans? Would anyone join a Republican Party if it was established in Canada?

August1991 · November 25, 2004

Do you mean "Republican" as in a party in favour of Canada becoming a federal republic?

Or, do you mean something else?

And Cartman, why is that someone who advocates less government intervention in society is branded, in Canada apparently, as being "pro-American"? I would feel very uncomfortable accusing anyone of being more or less patriotic than me.

maplesyrup · November 25, 2004

Cartman.....yes the Cons are the "Republican Party North"

I think the reason people, not all, but a lot of people who vote for the Cons is that they have a Canadian inferiority complex. They have spent too much time watching US TV and have been brainwashed into believing everying Canadian is bad, and everything from the US is good. These are the kind of people that will cheer President Bush snubbing our Canadian Parliamentiarians on his visit to Ottawa next week.

And it is very sad! :blink:

Cartman · November 25, 2004

Like any other opinion, sentiment or feeling, "patriotism" (American and Canadian) is variable, not constant. That is, not everyone is equally patriotic. I think that most people agree with this statement. So, why should we be afraid to say as much?

Like any other opinion, Canadian "identification with the US" is variable, not constant. I suspect most people agree with this statement. Why are we afraid to say so?

I would go further and say that both of these sentiments are quite evident in Canada and that they vary by membership in certain social and political groups. For example, it may be acceptable to have a US flag as your icon on Free Dominion, but certainly not on Babble. Why is this the case when they are both Canadian forums?

I have no problem indicating that which everyone knows is reality. I do have a problem when people strongly assert pro-US sentiment in Canada and I am rather tired of listening to Canadian bashing. I am tired of looking at American flags on Canadian's trucks and homes. I believe that this is done in open defiance of Canadian nationalists. Why should I refrain from saying that people who openly advance pro-American sentiment are less patriotic to Canada? I would be angry if Canadians began to dress their homes with old Soviet flags.

Let me be crystal clear though, my sense is that August is a Canadian patriot. Advocating a reduction in government intervention does not make you "pro-American" but I suspect that more "pro-Americans" advance a reduction in Canadian government intervention. They are different.

Newfie Canadian · November 25, 2004

The moderate wing of said party, I would venture.

Cartman · November 25, 2004

The moderate wing of said party, I would venture.

Sorry NC, were you referring to my post or Maple's post?

Newfie Canadian · November 25, 2004

Apologies Cartman.

I was regerring to this quote in maplesyrup's post.

yes the Cons are the "Republican Party North"

My point was that if one was to associate the CPC with an American party, I would suggest they would be akin to the moderate/center part of the Republican party.

Canadians, in my opinion, have generally practiced a quiet patriotism. That kind of sounds strange.

They are proud of their country, they like what their country stands for and they are all round patriotic Canadians, but for some reason, we don't show like some others.

maplesyrup · November 25, 2004

NC....I agree about the quietness. That is why many Canadians are offended by loud-mouthed nationalists, even of the Canadian variety, although I do think it is slowly changing. Canadians are not as nationalistic say as the US citizens. Perhaps because we seem to be more international in our outlook. Part of it is because we are not a super power, I suppose. One don't get to the top of the heap unless you are very aggressive, and then of course, you want to brag about it.

Choke · November 29, 2004

I am a Conservative...American Republicans are by and large classical liberals with Bibles and so is the CPC. However, the CPC is a softer version, since Canada is such a liberal country they usually stick to classical liberal free market crap and stay quiet on moral issues. But I still vote CPC because they're the least bad.

I don't think it's anti-Canadian to be pro-American. I think Canada is like America's favourite pet, so the BEST thing for us is to be as close to America as possible, especially when they've got lots of money and their economy is on the upswing, otherwise they won't give us any scraps. This isn't because I am a "self-loathing Canadian" it's because I can understand that 30,000,000 is a lot smaller number than 300,000,000.