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But they don't speak of a carbon TAX, they speak very vaguely of a cap and trade system for industry, with no numbers. They're clearly trying to push this as something which will help the environment and cost Canadians nothing. Both are outright lies.

outright lies??? I suggest you look at your own lies/purposeful deception! You keep repeating that BOTH the Liberal and NDP positions favour cap-and-trade... I will once again ask you to cite cap-and-trade as the target/official position being put forward by the Liberal party - waiting... Notwithstanding, once again, there are many 'flavours' of cap-and-trade... a differentiation you choose not to make in your broad-brush negative stereotyping. If the NDP statements suggest a "possible" alignment with the WIC... or more pointedly, with Quebec itself (within WIC), then you need to be very precise as member parties within the WIC have themselves moved to distinct deployments within that umbrella framework. If you choose to directly target the NDP's suggestions towards a possible alignment with a "Quebec cap-and-trade model", then you need to target that model and be very precise in your criticism of it. Otherwise you're just blowing smoke in yet another of your bluster-bus routines!

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