poochy Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 I don't know, how much do you think? Give it a rest, it has next to little impact on how the vote buying system with this issue is working. I doubt a lot of poor people are going to be convinced to vote for Harper over this deal. People who don't need the money, maybe so, or at least until they see it gets mostly all clawed back at tax time. Well, with facts like that how could anyone argue with your doubts. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Well, with facts like that how could anyone argue with your doubts. I'm glad I have enlightened you. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 I don't know, how much do you think? Approximately none. Give it a rest, it has next to little impact on how the vote buying system with this issue is working. I was responding to a point. What are you doing? I doubt a lot of poor people are going to be convinced to vote for Harper over this deal. I doubt that too. Is that the point I was making? People who don't need the money, maybe so, or at least until they see it gets mostly all clawed back at tax time. It's always been a taxable benefit. Sorry to burst your bubble. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Approximately none. I was responding to a point. What are you doing? I doubt that too. Is that the point I was making? It's always been a taxable benefit. Sorry to burst your bubble. The child tax credit was not taxable, hence it's name. Sorry to burst your bubble. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 The child tax credit was not taxable, hence it's name. Sorry to burst your bubble. Do you even know what it was? It was simply an increase in your basic expedition because you had children. The UCCB increase is worth more, especially to people who don't pay taxes. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Do you even know what it was? It was simply an increase in your basic expedition because you had children. The UCCB increase is worth more, especially to people who don't pay taxes. And it was a direct reduction from your taxable income. Unlike the UCCB. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 And it was a direct reduction from your taxable income. Unlike the UCCB. Which is a direct increase in your taxable income - in that it gives you more income. It's on average worth much more than the CTB. You're welcome. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Which is a direct increase in your taxable income - in that it gives you more income. It's on average worth much more than the CTB. You're welcome. It gives you more income, which gets largely clawed back. You're welcome. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 It gives you more income, which gets largely clawed back. You're welcome. That depends on how much money you make. The less you make, the more you keep, making it a nicely progressive program. You should be thrilled. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 That depends on how much money you make. The less you make, the more you keep, making it a nicely progressive program. You should be thrilled. Giving taxpayer money to people who don't need it is not progressive. But it might get a few votes since it might not become apparent to the dolts who buy this crap that they got sucked in whe it comes to next tax time. Hopefully Harper will be sent back to the CPC doldrums prior to that. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Giving taxpayer money to people who don't need it is not progressive. Like you said, they don't keep most of it - it mostly gets clawed back if you don't need it. But it might get a few votes since it might not become apparent to the dolts who buy this crap that they got sucked in whe it comes to next tax time. Hopefully Harper will be sent back to the CPC doldrums prior to that. And yet the NDP want to keep it. They should be ashamed. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Like you said, they don't keep most of it - it mostly gets clawed back if you don't need it. And yet the NDP want to keep it. They should be ashamed. Of course its the author who should be ashamed. The NDP will scrap income splitting which is even more regressive. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Of course its the author who should be ashamed. The NDP will scrap income splitting which is even more regressive. You just told me that this program had the money get clawed back. Then you said it's going to people that don't need it and it's regressive. Make up your mind. I hope the NDP campaigns on that too. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 You just told me that this program had the money get clawed back. Then you said it's going to people that don't need it and it's regressive. Make up your mind. I hope the NDP campaigns on that too. They are both regressive programs. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 They are both regressive programs. A program that claws back much of the money at higher income levels is the exact opposite of regressive. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 A program that claws back much of the money at higher income levels is the exact opposite of regressive. A program that gives taxpayer money to 15% of higher wage earners is nothing but regressive. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 A program that gives taxpayer money to 15% of higher wage earners is nothing but regressive. But by your own admission and complaint, they get - less - of it than low income earners, because it's clawed back. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 But by your own admission and complaint, they get - less - of it than low income earners, because it's clawed back. Sounds like you are actually buying the BS. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Sounds like you are actually buying the BS. Your BS? You said it. Edited July 31, 2015 by Smallc Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Your BS? You said it. No...Harper's BS. Enjoy your little check untill April. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 No...Harper's BS. Enjoy your little check untill April. I don't have any kids, but it provided an excellent bump in business. Quote
blueblood Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Giving taxpayer money to people who don't need it is not progressive. But it might get a few votes since it might not become apparent to the dolts who buy this crap that they got sucked in whe it comes to next tax time. Hopefully Harper will be sent back to the CPC doldrums prior to that. Everyone gets something why shouldnt people who work hard get a break now and then. Typical leftist crap - punish those who succeed. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 I don't have any kids, but it provided an excellent bump in business. Only to be followed by whatever the opposite of "bump" is when it's tax time. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Everyone gets something why shouldnt people who work hard get a break now and then. Typical leftist crap - punish those who succeed. Typical rightist crap-I'm rich and don't want to pay my fair share. Quote
Smallc Posted July 31, 2015 Report Posted July 31, 2015 Only to be followed by whatever the opposite of "bump" is when it's tax time. I live in a very poor area. It will have very little impact. Quote
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