Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/cabinet-minister-s-riding-may-have-received-25k-from-snc-lavalin-execs-1.2125096 If true, this will be the definitive end of Harper in Ottawa. Take note - corruption in government is something that people care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Naw, I suspect screwing veterans will do him in first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 No. Thatt story has little in the way of legs. This...this has the potential to be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Naw, Harper has already got away with in/out etc. This thing will die a quick death in PQ. The image Fantino has with vet-bashing goes from coast to coast. Now Harper is party to the same crap. This will have legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 The ridings in question don't appear to have received anything other than individual donations. The corruption, if there is any, looks like it was on SNC-Lavalin's part for reimbursing their employees political donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 We'll see. It's not even the facts that matter in a case like this, but the perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 On the other hand, all of it seems to have slipped through the news cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Agh, now I see why. Updated versions of the story now show that the money went to the Liberals as well. Even if people care, the Conservatives now won't be punished for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) The history of federal Canadian governments indicates that 8 years is about as long as any one is able to maintain power. I believe that process to be healthy and due to the system rather than any particular policy. These governments are made up of humans with human strengths and frailties. The longer a government is in power, the more results of human frailties are revealed and the less the public begins to trust it. Most governments are defeated by the "death of a thousand cuts" rather than a "beheading". This is another "cut". I have no doubt that the Harper government has reached its limit and will soon have to turn power over to another government - who will begin its own process with a similar end. Edited November 29, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politics/cabinet-minister-s-riding-may-have-received-25k-from-snc-lavalin-execs-1.2125096 If true, this will be the definitive end of Harper in Ottawa. Take note - corruption in government is something that people care about. Corruption involves a quid pro quo. We haven't seen the 'quo' yet. It appears from the story that they donated money to both Liberals and Conservatives, which makes this more a Quebec thing than a Tory thing, and I think most outside Quebec will take it that way. I don't think Harper will be happy about this, though, and - again, assuming the story is true - I expect firings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Agh, now I see why. Updated versions of the story now show that the money went to the Liberals as well. Even if people care, the Conservatives now won't be punished for this. Companies don't donate money to political parties anonymously. They want those parties to know they're donating money so they can get something back. So someone in both parties had to be aware of this or there wouldn't be any point in the donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 It was entirely legal in 2009 for someone to make a personal donation to a riding up to $1100. So 10 managers and their wives could amount to 20 donations for a total of $22,000. It would be illegal if SNC Lavelin reimbursed them all. If there is impropriety, it would seem that it might lie with SNC - or no one at all. Lazy journalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yeah, I think I got caught up in the headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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