Alberta Votes Against GSA

[Bryan]

Nope. The many teachers I know in Manitoba say public education there is top notch and improving greatly under the NDP and their working together with the MTS.

Teachers. Right. They would say that, wouldn't they? I'm sure they do love how grossly overpaid they are, and how the NDP has lit huge piles of money on fire without regard to outcomes.

Our education system has really gone downhill in the last 10 years. It's not just less than optimal, it's really bad.

[socialist]

Teachers. Right. They would say that, wouldn't they? I'm sure they do love how grossly overpaid they are, and how the NDP has lit huge piles of money on fire without regard to outcomes.

Our education system has really gone downhill in the last 10 years. It's not just less than optimal, it's really bad.

You make ridiculous statements without proof? Where is the proof Manitoba is doing poorly. I also heard Manitoba passed a law to allow GSAs is any school including independent school. Manitoba is a leader in progressive education.

[waldo]

your link's content is long on both veiled & overt rhetoric and devoid of actual examples... like the examples I queried you for. I suggest you start a new thread... package up this unrelated topic... unrelated to this thread... along with your other recent thread decrying the inclusion of corporate interests in potential education cirriculum shaping. Let's have you provide real and meaningful discourse on your apparent concerns with 'Cirriculum 21', 'PISA testing', etc..

It is not even close to being long on veiled and overt rhetoric. Did you even read it? So you are OK with the current government's push for the privatization of public education creating a two tiered system? Do you even understand the threats public education is facing? I think this is one topic you know little about. Please educate yourself. also courts ruled in favour of the BCTF. Were you even aware of that?

as I said... rhetoric devoid of any actual examples. You know, like the examples I challenged you to provide... the challenge which you ignored.

your linked article does manage to use the term neo-liberal a brazillion times though! And per your now typical approach, when others question/challenge you to explain your repeated usage of "neo-liberal"... what it actually means to you... you choose to simply ignore them.

in any case, none of this has anything to do with Gay-Straight Alliances. You know, the topic of the thread you created... the topic you seem unwilling to even speak to. It's already been pointed out to once prior, that you're off on multiple tangents that have nothing to do with this thread/your OP. Is there a problem?

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[socialist]

as I said... rhetoric devoid of any actual examples. You know, like the examples I challenged you to provide... the challenge which you ignored.

your linked article does manage to use the term neo-liberal a brazillion times though! And per your now typical approach, when others question/challenge you to explain your repeated usage of "neo-liberal"... what it actually means to you... you choose to simply ignore them.

in any case, none of this has anything to do with Gay-Straight Alliances. You know, the topic of the thread you created... the topic you seem unwilling to even speak to. It's already been pointed out to once prior, that you're off on multiple tangents that have nothing to do with this thread/your OP. Is there a problem?

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So your the one who told on me to Charles anthony resulting in me getting another warning point. Kids need to feel safe in school. That's the bottom line. I ot off topic on this one but I have other educational threads discussing serious issues. I guess I got distracted here.

[Michael Hardner]

Teachers. Right. They would say that, wouldn't they? I'm sure they do love how grossly overpaid they are, and how the NDP has lit huge piles of money on fire without regard to outcomes.

Our education system has really gone downhill in the last 10 years. It's not just less than optimal, it's really bad.

Both you and socialist are putting forward a kind of donut-shop argument: "the system has gone downhill" "neo-liberals are after us"

Either one, neither, or both could be true. A better argument would have more facts in it, that either of you could attack or defend. And we need more specifics. If you want the system to improve, then you're not helping that in your own little way by arguing with decades-old arguments.

This goes for both you and socialist IMO.

[socialist]

Both you and socialist are putting forward a kind of donut-shop argument: "the system has gone downhill" "neo-liberals are after us"

Either one, neither, or both could be true. A better argument would have more facts in it, that either of you could attack or defend. And we need more specifics. If you want the system to improve, then you're not helping that in your own little way by arguing with decades-old arguments.

This goes for both you and socialist IMO.

I've provided facts and excellent links to prove my point. Do you even read them?

[Michael Hardner]

I've provided facts and excellent links to prove my point. Do you even read them?

Yes, I have even responded to your posts here.

[waldo]

So your the one who told on me to Charles anthony resulting in me getting another warning point. Kids need to feel safe in school. That's the bottom line. I ot off topic on this one but I have other educational threads discussing serious issues. I guess I got distracted here.

no - not me... but again, you seem reluctant to actually discuss the topic of this thread; the thread you created.

[socialist]

no - not me... but again, you seem reluctant to actually discuss the topic of this thread; the thread you created.

Waldo, do you wish there was a GSA alliance in your school when you went to school? GSAs have been proven to save lives and not just the lives of LGBTTQ students. Did you know that?

[cybercoma]

I don't keep a close eye on Alberta provincial politics, but why would they vote against GSA's? Makes no sense to me.

[left_alberta]

Well, as most of you probably know, this issue has been back in the news the last few days.

Personally, I think the debacle boils down to Prentice being high on his own supply, and thinking "Hey, with Wildrose in free fall, I should cobble together some legislative dog-whistles and scoop up all those wayward SoCon votes." And of course, he threw in the thing about removing the parental override from sex ed classes etc, hoping the progressives would like that aspect of the bill and ignore the anti-GSA stuff.

But, of course, the media, opposition, and public saw through it, and now Prentice has major egg on his face, and probably no clue about what his next move will be. But it probably won't hurt him in the long run, as Wildrose has likely reached peak growth, and the Liberals and NDP aren't seeing any action outside the big cities.