Well Hudak's got my vote

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Well, other than Right to Work, which isn't a certain thing, what are you concerned with? The Liqour issue is a concern to a lot of people because Ontarians are being hosed on the price of alcohol and are also being treated like children at the same time having to buy alcohol at a government run outlet.

Right to work is kinda of a big deal. BTW the only provinces who don't have the Rand Formula (right to work provinces) are NB, PEI, and NS. It is working so well for them isn't it?

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Right to work is kinda of a big deal.

And according to that poll MCC cited Hudak has some decent support for his proposal.

However, 71 per cent approve of making unions disclose all their financial transactions, including support for political parties and advocacy campaigns, compared with 16 per cent who disagreed and 13 per cent who were unsure.And Hudak’s pitch to allow non-unionized employees to compete against unionized civil servants for public service jobs was endorsed by 57 per cent and opposed by 27 per cent with 16 per cent undecided.

Hudak will never get the support of Public Service Unions so it's a pretty good wedge issue.

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And according to that poll MCC cited Hudak has some decent support for his proposal. Hudak will never get the support of Public Service Unions so it's a pretty good wedge issue.

According to a poll on a topic people don't understand Hudak has support shocking. It wont have any support once the other side starts with the talking points. Again only three provinces don't use the Rand Formula (which is what Hudak is talking about) NS, NB, PEI. It aint working for them so why would the people of Ontario support it? BTW it isn't right to work here. In Canada you can tell your union to pay your dues to a charity if you don't want to be a member. NO ONE HAS TO JOIN A UNION. Around here it is just right to work for less.

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My support for Hudak or distain for McGuinty has nothing to do with Right to Work as I don't belong to a Union. I can cite many issues that make me hate McGuinty and/or support Hudak, right to work isn't one of them.

However this alcohol issue effects many people. The fact that Duncan comes out this week with this half-assed attempt to make alcohol sales more convenient only illustrates that the Liberals know people care about the issue.

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However this alcohol issue effects many people.

Yah but it doesn't really. Right to work effects more people because it will have an effect on the economy in some way (driving down wages). People might vote on the alcohol thing but I doubt it.

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Well Unionization continues to decline on it's own. Really the only places I see unionization very strong are domestic auto sales, public service and certain specialized trades. Those are very well paid jobs already.

Obviously I'm generalizing but I suspect the public's sympathy for public service unions is rather low.

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Well Unionization continues to decline on it's own. Really the only places I see unionization very strong are domestic auto sales, public service and certain specialized trades. Those are very well paid jobs already.

Obviously I'm generalizing but I suspect the public's sympathy for public service unions is rather low.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China. If right to work for less isn't going to do anything accept create the turmoil we see it creating in the US why would anyone run on forcing it through? BTW Alberta went through this and their courts said that the Rand is a constitutional right in Canada and a provincial government has to put it in place. So what are the Tories doing? Well they are opening up a big fight that in the end will go to the courts who have already ruled on it.

This is a bad idea that will probably lose them the election or hurt Ontario if they do get elected.

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He hasn't pledged to introduce "Right to Work" as far as I know. He's just throwing a few issues out there to see what sticks. The issue in this thread, I think has stuck. We'll see though.

I think Hudak is really looking to have a fight with the Public Service though, as Harris did. In his mind, McGuinty's fight with the teachers hasn't gone far enough.

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He hasn't pledged to introduce "Right to Work" as far as I know. He's just throwing a few issues out there to see what sticks. The issue in this thread, I think has stuck. We'll see though.

I think Hudak is really looking to have a fight with the Public Service though, as Harris did. In his mind, McGuinty's fight with the teachers hasn't gone far enough.

Hudak is a terrible leader if he thinks the best way to win an election or govern is to put out trail balloons to see what sticks. If that is the type of conviction you will vote for well God help your province. Now he doesn't even have a plan. Do yourself a favor if you want to vote against the Liberals vote NDP they might not be what you want but at least they have a plan beyond throwing things out there.

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Hudak is a terrible leader if he thinks the best way to win an election or govern is to put out trail balloons to see what sticks. If that is the type of conviction you will vote for well God help your province. Now he doesn't even have a plan. Do yourself a favor if you want to vote against the Liberals vote NDP they might not be what you want but at least they have a plan beyond throwing things out there.

Well we're really not sure what the NDP has planned either. Horvath hasn't even confirmed she wants to bring the government down yet. She can get a lot of what she wants blackmailing the Liberals like she did last Summer. Hudak definitely wants to go after Unions, no question. I support going after Public Service Unions but have no real opinion on Right to Work. Here's a story about Hudak's platform. http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/845476--hudak-ramps-up-tory-platform

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Well we're really not sure what the NDP has planned either. Horvath hasn't even confirmed she wants to bring the government down yet. She can get a lot of what she wants blackmailing the Liberals like she did last Summer. Hudak definitely wants to go after Unions, no question. I support going after Public Service Unions but have no real opinion on Right to Work. Here's a story about Hudak's platform. http://www.thespec.c...p-tory-platform

We will have to wait and see during the election. Well I guess for the NDP because we know the Conservatives never deliver on their election promises so.