jbg Posted December 1, 2012 Report Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Speaking from experience as a father, and one who knows many fathers, family discipline is often at a nadir. What a parent says to a teenage son or daughter is often, at best, a mere suggestion. Sometimes offspring simply give their middle finger, give lip, or are otherwise totally disrespectful. There is something to be said for the iron discipline and close-knit family ties other cultures provide. It has helped these cultures progress. Today we worry about Japan, China and South Korea taking our jobs and our initiative. Tomorrow, Afghanistan. Link to story, excerpts below: Afghan father shot dead his two daughters in 'honour killing' after they ran away with Nato interpreter An Afghan man shot his two teenage daughters dead when they returned home four days after running away with a young man, police said today. ..................... His daughters had run away with a young man four days ago. When they returned home their father killed them,' Mr Farhang said. This week's killings come after a video emerged earlier this month (still shown above) in which the Taliban are seen executing a woman accused of adultery Police have issued an arrest warrant for the young man, who is said to be working as an interpreter with Nato forces in the southern province, the spokesman added. Relations between men and women outside marriage are strictly controlled under Islam and infringements are harshly punished by most families in ultra-conservative Afghanistan. Edited December 2, 2012 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted December 1, 2012 Report Posted December 1, 2012 Speaking from experience as a father, and one who knows many fathers, family discipline is often at a nadir. What a parent says to a teenage son or daughter is often, at best, a mere suggestion. Sometimes offspring simply give their middle finger, give lip, or are otherwise totally disrespectful. There is something to be said for the iron discipline and close-knit family ties other cultures provide. It has helped these cultures progress. Today we worry about Japan, China and South Korea taking our jobs and our initiative. Tomorrow, Afghanistan. If we are challenged by Afghanistan, it will be because they defeated ancient hatreds and learned to move forward. China only became a world leading economy after burying their old economic system and embracing new ways. Japan led the world in the 1980s due to a cohesive society that rebuilt itself on the values of excellence after WW2. I'm not as familiar with South Korea, but I know that their success is a similar economic success story. Why would we 'worry' about Afghanistan ? I think that their contribution to terror attacks and the subsequent wars should be the only reasons for worry for awhile. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Guest American Woman Posted December 1, 2012 Report Posted December 1, 2012 (edited) Perhaps this belongs in "the rest of the world," not "religion and politics?" As you (jbg) pointed out in your opening post, this man's beliefs are based on his culture, and I think presenting it as a religious problem rather than a cultural problem raises the PC.s hackles, and rather than address the seriousness of this problem, it becomes a 'Christians have done violent things and/or aren't perfect either' issue. Until we can get past the PC mindset, I'm afraid the world at large will not see this problem for what it is; or perhaps more to the point, will not address the problem for what it is. From yesterdays' news: Afghan police have arrested two men accused of beheading a teenage girl with a knife in northern Kunduz province, officials said on Wednesday. Prior to the attack, the girl's father had rejected a marriage proposal for his daughter. "Our investigation shows those who killed her were people who wanted to marry her," police told the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-20532037 Edited December 1, 2012 by American Woman Quote
jbg Posted December 1, 2012 Author Report Posted December 1, 2012 Perhaps this belongs in "the rest of the world," not "religion and politics?" As you (jbg) pointed out in your opening post, this man's beliefs are based on his culture, and I think presenting it as a religious problem rather than a cultural problem raises the PC.s hackles, and rather than address the seriousness of this problem, it becomes a 'Christians have done violent things and/or aren't perfect either' issue. Until we can get past the PC mindset, I'm afraid the world at large will not see this problem for what it is; or perhaps more to the point, will not address the problem for what it is.Where to put a thread is always a tough decision. Somewhat arbitrary. From yesterdays' news: Afghan police have arrested two men accused of beheading a teenage girl with a knife in northern Kunduz province, officials said on Wednesday. Prior to the attack, the girl's father had rejected a marriage proposal for his daughter. "Our investigation shows those who killed her were people who wanted to marry her," police told the BBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-20532037 I thought about using that story as my base. I think both illustrate sound family management. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Hardner Posted December 1, 2012 Report Posted December 1, 2012 I think both illustrate sound family management. Sarcasm doesn't come over easily in forum posts, jbg. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Bonam Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Sarcasm doesn't come over easily in forum posts, jbg. Seemed clear enough to me... Quote
jbg Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Posted December 14, 2012 Sarcasm doesn't come over easily in forum posts, jbg. Why do you assume sarcasm? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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