cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I know being a conservative is hopeless it really is, everyone wants a free ride. it really is generation 'me'. I should just switch to the left and try to grab as much money from the government as I can until it runs out of other peoples money. I hope the left gets in and bankrupts Canada then I can say, told you so. "Complete nonsense" (Shady 2011). Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 "Complete nonsense" (Shady 2011). Our society is moving further and further to the left so what's the point of being a right winger? It's just slowing down the swing to the left nothing more. If everyone just votes in the NDP to a majority we can see if they will destroy the country with a far left agenda. If it turns out like Bob Rae Ontario we say good bye forever, I truly hope that the NDP gets in and redistrubutes the wealth, publicizes everyones home and we'll see how cheery people are after that. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 (edited) We've had 6 years of Conservative government. "Society" is moving further and further left? What do you mean by society? What do you mean by moving to the left? How are you measuring that? And everytime you post about what you think the NDP will do, you show that you know nothing about the NDP or their policies. I would strongly recommend that you actually read up on the party. Edited October 13, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 We've had 6 years of Conservative government. "Society" is moving further and further left? What do you mean by society? What do you mean by moving to the left? How are you measuring that? And everytime you post about what you think the NDP will do, you show that you know nothing about the NDP or their policies. I would strongly recommend that you actually read up on the party. The Tories are not right wingers, they are Liberals in disguise. I want a far right government. A dictatorship like Franco. A fascist government. Society is way further to the left now then it was 50 years ago. The NDP will.... - increase public spending and increase taxes - make all post secondary education free of charge and again our taxes will rise - make all housing publicly owned. that iscludes all privately held residences will turn into crown assets. this is just a start of their hidden agenda. They have coveted these things for decades. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 The hidden agenda. I remember when people laughed about people saying that about Harper. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 The hidden agenda. I remember when people laughed about people saying that about Harper. it's good to see you agree with the rest of my post, thank you. I don't want the NDP to take posession of my house and redistribute my assets but hey, that's Canada now. We have to get used to it. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 it's good to see you agree with the rest of my post, thank you. I don't want the NDP to take posession of my house and redistribute my assets but hey, that's Canada now. We have to get used to it. I ignored the rest of your post because it wasn't worth responding to. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 I ignored the rest of your post because it wasn't worth responding to. Too bad you really should start getting used to what I posted these are cold facts. Go back and re read it then keep voting for NDP and you'll see them come to fruition. The NDP have always wanted to takeover all housing fordecades. If you don't know that then you are either very young or don't read your parties platforms for the last 20 years. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
dre Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 The Tories are not right wingers, they are Liberals in disguise. I want a far right government. A dictatorship like Franco. A fascist government. Society is way further to the left now then it was 50 years ago. The NDP will.... - increase public spending and increase taxes - make all post secondary education free of charge and again our taxes will rise - make all housing publicly owned. that iscludes all privately held residences will turn into crown assets. this is just a start of their hidden agenda. They have coveted these things for decades. Society is way further to the left now then it was 50 years ago. I see this claim trotted out often but Im not sure its true. I would argue we were way further to the left back then. We had a national railway, a national airline, a national oil company, provincial telcos, and all kinds of state ownership. Weve privatized most of that stuff now, and had a string of pro-business governments. Typical tax cutting corporatists. The national party representing labor has never won single election. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 Society is way further to the left now then it was 50 years ago. I see this claim trotted out often but Im not sure its true. I would argue we were way further to the left back then. We had a national railway, a national airline, a national oil company, provincial telcos, and all kinds of state ownership. Weve privatized most of that stuff now, and had a string of pro-business governments. Typical tax cutting corporatists. The national party representing labor has never won single election. They only need to win one because they hate Canada and wish to destroy it imo. They want to take my house and my assets and give to people who never worked for it. One NDP majority and we won't recognize Canada. It's not the right that people must fear but the left. The right loves Canada but I'm not so sure about the left. They don't seem very patriotic to me. The left is constantly attacking Canada. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
dre Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 They only need to win one because they hate Canada and wish to destroy it imo. They want to take my house and my assets and give to people who never worked for it. One NDP majority and we won't recognize Canada. It's not the right that people must fear but the left. The right loves Canada but I'm not so sure about the left. They don't seem very patriotic to me. The left is constantly attacking Canada. So no attempt to defend your statement at all huh? Big suprise. Its actually mindless hacks like you on both ends of the spectrum that people must fear. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 They only need to win one because they hate Canada and wish to destroy it imo Do you actually believe this garbage? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 Do you actually believe this garbage? Yes. the evidence is overwhelming. The left is constantly attacking Canada and its practices which tells me they would do the exact opposite. It's a fact that they want to government control all housing. They also want all education to be free and let anyone into Canada without any checks what so ever. This will destroy Canada. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Guest Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 I think the left only says those things because they know they'll never get in. The NDP has a snowball's chance in Hell of forming a government in Canada. They can say what they like, no-one's ever going to get to call them on it. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Yes. the evidence is overwhelming. Show me. Quote
Smallc Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 The left is constantly attacking Canada and its practices which tells me they would do the exact opposite. It's a fact that they want to government control all housing. Is the LPC the left? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 Is the LPC the left? Yes,they are. The NDP is the far left. The CPC is the centre as are US democrats. US Republicans are centre/right. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 Yes,they are. So, the party that has been the government most of the time throughout this country's history...is trying to destroy it? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 The Liberal party was a good party until Trudeau. PET took the party from the centre to the left. This cannot be debated. The Liberals are now so left wing that they are seen as equals to the NDP in terms of position. The Tories have taken over the centre now. Canada doesn't have a national right wing party anymore and hasn't since the Reform party. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
cybercoma Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 This cannot be debated. Not much you say can be. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 13, 2012 Author Report Posted October 13, 2012 Not much you say can be. I am a speaker of the truth. This is often the case when I speak as the facts I use speak for themselves. People are often afraid of the truth and instead seek to smear me personally, rules be damned. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted October 13, 2012 Report Posted October 13, 2012 The Liberal party was a good party until Trudeau. PET took the party from the centre to the left. And what did Turner do? Chretien? Martin? This cannot be debated. It is hard to debate nonsense. The Liberals are now so left wing that they are seen as equals to the NDP in terms of position. Oh? Really Quote
dre Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Yes. the evidence is overwhelming. The left is constantly attacking Canada and its practices which tells me they would do the exact opposite. It's a fact that they want to government control all housing. No, virtually nobody on the left wants "the government to control all housing". Put the crack pipe down for god sakes. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
BC_chick Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 (edited) Abortion has been completely legal in Canada since 1988. If there was a "slippery slope", we'd have started sliding down it by now, surely. The slippery-slope argument was about late-term abortions vs. early-term. Pro-choicers don't want to budge on the issue because it would open to door to limiting early-term abortions. However, the point I made is that the majority of people out there, pro-choice or not, do feel there is a difference. That's why you don't see the pro-choice camp actually defend late-term abortions other than citing its rarity. Earlier on this thread you compared banning LTA to banning unicorns. If that were really the case, then why not ban them? Because of the slippery-slope it could open by granting personhood to an unborn. That was my point. Actually, the latter position (one I hold) would be considered pretty extreme as it is completely cavalier about the destruction of a life. A woman's rights over her body trump that of her unborn child. Cybercoma's post to which I was responding provides good reasoning for that. I agree with that assertion 100%. However, I was merely stating my opinion that in providing women that right we have completely desensitized ourselves to the fact that abortion does, in fact, take a life. And since you agree me that abortion takes a life, perhaps you can explain why we are so indifferent to abortion so long as it's done before (x) number of weeks. So it all comes down to the size of the fetus? Or are you just as cavalier about the destruction of a life (on demand) at any stage in the pregnancy? It's a bit of a paradox wouldn't you say? Edited October 14, 2012 by BC_chick Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
jbg Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 And what did Turner do? Chretien? Martin? Turner and Martin were transitional PM's who got little done. Chretien basically continued Trudeau's leftward and Frenchification drifts. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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