Canadian pedophile outing website goes live!

[Mr.Canada]

I tried to take a subtle jibe at his tendency to label all paedophiles (and likely a wider, surrounding group who wouldn't technically qualify as paedophiles) as "child molesters" when I said "Mr. Canada will take video of those... child molesters (even if they never once molested a child)".

I would beat him within an inch of his life. No videos. I would stalk him, learn his habits throw a blanket over him and duct tape it around the neck, hands and feet so he couldn't see me then I would commence to beat him. Pedophiles are human garbage and deserve whatever they have coming to them. They are the lowest form of human being.

Again I cannot for the life of me understand how left wingers can defend a child molester.

So I have a question to all of you who have kids.

If a person you know admitted they were a pedophile but never touched a child yet would you let them bebysit your children?

[guyser]

Again I cannot for the life of me understand how left wingers can defend a child molester.

Sigh...back to trolling again are we? I thought you found god or turned over a new leaf...or something.

Ok..please show where one, anyone, defends a child molester?

Please?

So I have a question to all of you who have kids.

If a person you know admitted they were a pedophile but never touched a child yet would you let them bebysit your children?

Oh sure. Why not?

Hell, I just hired a Fox to sit my chickens,

Built a playground and swingset on the 401 centre lane.

Gave the 4 yr old a Bic and a jerry can of gas and said 'Have a blast'

Last weekend it was the older boys b-day, Pin the tail on the donkey at the edge of the niagara gorge.

Edited September 14, 2012 by guyser

[Mr.Canada]

Sigh...back to trolling again are we? I thought you found god or turned over a new leaf...or something.

Ok..please show where one, anyone, defends a child molester?

Please?

Several people in this thread are saying that not all pedophiles are child molesters. As if this somehow makes it all better. It's almost like no matter what argument someone makes someone else has disagree no matter how ludicrous it would be.

So if they are so adamant in trying to make others think they are just misunderstood I asked them to put their money where their mouth is. If people who are so accepting of pedophiles why not let an admitted, non acting, pedophile watch their children?

Very simple.

Edited September 14, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[guyser]

[Very simple.

If it was why even you would get it.

But it isnt, and of course, you don't.

[cybercoma]

Just because you were molested once that does not mean you are in a state of permanent torment and suffering.

Agreed, I think the notion that survivors of sexual abuse or assault are somehow irrevocably damaged does them a great disservice. It's the same line of reasoning anti-abortion types use when they talk about the psychological damage of abortion. We need to recognize there is a range of experiences and that not everyone who was once victimized wants to spend their whole lives as a victim

I think both of you talking about the experience of survivors as though there is some sort of universal objective truth that exists for all of them does them a disservice. The ways victims experience and live with their attacks are all different.

Edited September 15, 2012 by cybercoma

[Guest American Woman]

Several people in this thread are saying that not all pedophiles are child molesters. As if this somehow makes it all better.

It certainly does make it better, as it would be much worse if all pedophiles were child molesters, would it not?

It's almost like no matter what argument someone makes someone else has disagree no matter how ludicrous it would be.

It's not "disagreeing," it's pointing out facts. "Pedophile" and "criminal" are not synonymous. Furthermore, their brain is wired that way. No one is arguing anything regarding criminal pedophiles - just pointing out the error in saying a pedophile is automatically a child molester. Furthermore, not all child molesters are pedophiles.

So if they are so adamant in trying to make others think they are just misunderstood I asked them to put their money where their mouth is. If people who are so accepting of pedophiles why not let an admitted, non acting, pedophile watch their children?

Your question is basically a non sequitur, as who do you think would come out publicly and say, "I'm a pedophile, I'm sexually aroused by children?" - much less then offer to babysit?

Edited September 15, 2012 by American Woman

[bleeding heart]

Several people in this thread are saying that not all pedophiles are child molesters. As if this somehow makes it all better.

????

It's not?

[Argus]

I would beat him within an inch of his life. No videos. I would stalk him, learn his habits throw a blanket over him and duct tape it around the neck, hands and feet so he couldn't see me then I would commence to beat him. Pedophiles are human garbage and deserve whatever they have coming to them. They are the lowest form of human being.

How truly brave of you.

I mean, not everyone has the courage to surprise someone with a blanket over their head, tie them up, and then beat them. Your courage is truly magnificent!

Edited September 15, 2012 by Argus

[Argus]

I think both of you talking about the experience of survivors as though there is some sort of universal objective truth that exists for all of them does them a disservice. The ways victims experience and live with their attacks are all different.

How is what you said any different than what Black Dog said?

And while my point was not as expansive the inference was there, as well.

[Argus]

Hell, I just hired a Fox to sit my chickens,

The point, of course, is not to bring foxes together with hens.

Mr. C's point seems to be we should find and beat up all the foxes because they want to attack your chickens (whether they ever have attacked your chickens or ever seen them or even know they're there). He doesn't seem to have a plan beyond that.

[g_bambino]

I would beat him within an inch of his life. No videos. I would stalk him, learn his habits throw a blanket over him and duct tape it around the neck, hands and feet so he couldn't see me then I would commence to beat him. Pedophiles are human garbage and deserve whatever they have coming to them. They are the lowest form of human being.

Again I cannot for the life of me understand how left wingers can defend a child molester.

Congratulations on missing the point entirely.

[Mr.Canada]

Congratulations on missing the point entirely.

You're trying to make fun of me. That's all anyone ever does here. The point was that you're making fun of me. I don't share the view here that convicted pedophiles should be able to do whatever they want upon release. Many here do and that's their opinion but I think most parents wouldn't want convicted pedophiles running around unchecked. As I said this isn't your opinion and that's fine.

I cannot understand how people here are defending convicted pedophiles, it's just sick. Does the left wing include some NAMBLA members?

It's like no matter what I say people here try to take attention away from what I originally posted and make it about it me then proceed to make fun of me.

Edited September 16, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Guest American Woman]

I don't share the view here that convicted pedophiles should be able to do whatever they want upon release. Many here do and that's their opinion....

Who here thinks that? - And what have they said, specifically (ie: quotes would be appreciated), that makes you come to this (false, from what I can see) conclusion?

[Mr.Canada]

Who here thinks that? - And what have they said, specifically (ie: quotes would be appreciated), that makes you come to this (false, from what I can see) conclusion?

Everyone here is disagreeing with me. You're saying that not all pedophiles are criminals. You started this whole thing. Are you believing the pedophiles word when you say that not all are criminals? Have you met pedophiles that say they aren't touching children?

This post is dealing with convicted pedophiles and a website designed to bring attention to them. The average pedophile attacks 200 children on average in their lifetime.

It's not a question of if a pedophile will touch a child but when.

Edited September 16, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Mr.Canada]

Just because you were molested once that does not mean you are in a state of permanent torment and suffering.

I was molested as a child and let me tell you you never forget it, it never goes away. Walk a mile before opening your mouth. Unless you've been sexually abused you will not understand the pain, suffering and embarrassment that goes along with it.

I'm sure people here will make fun of this about me as well so go ahead, I've come to expect it.

Edited September 16, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Guest American Woman]

Everyone here is disagreeing with me. You're saying that not all pedophiles are criminals.

Most people are disagreeing with you about pedophiles, not criminal pedophiles; we are saying not all pedophiles are criminals because it's true, just as not all child molesters are pedophiles.

You started this whole thing. Are you believing the pedophiles word when you say that not all are criminals? Have you met pedophiles that say they aren't touching children?

How many people have you met that would offer that kind of information? - 'Hi. I'm a pedophile, but I'm not touching any children.' Just because you haven't met them doesn't mean that they don't exist. Some people manage to do the right thing in spite of their fantasies and desires. They manage to keep their urges in check. I "started the whole thing" because I think it's important to point out that not all pedophiles are the scum of the earth - they don't all act on their desires nor have they chosen to be attracted to children. It's the way their brain is wired.

I clearly said that I think if society would recognize this more, rather than sit in judgment, treating all pedophiles as criminal/scum of the earth, I think more might be willing to go for counseling, which would be a positive thing for them and for society.

If you are truly concerned, it seems to me that you would want to help create an environment where more pedophiles would seek counseling.

This post is dealing with convicted pedophiles and a website designed to bring attention to them. The average pedophile attacks 200 children on average in their lifetime.

"Convicted" being the key word. People are just pointing out that not all pedophiles act on their desires, as all pedophiles are being included in some people's wrath and contempt - including your opening post.

It's not a question of if a pedophile will touch a child but when.

That is nothing more than your belief, and it means nothing regarding the reality; and as I explained, I think such an attitude is counter-productive to helping the situation.

[Guest American Woman]

I was molested as a child and let me tell you you never forget it, it never goes away. Walk a mile before opening your mouth. Unless you've been sexually abused you will not understand the pain, suffering and embarrassment that goes along with it.

I'm sure people here will make fun of this about me as well so go ahead, I've come to expect it.

I feel for you. My heart goes out to you. I understand your pain and anger now, but I don't think your attitude is doing anything to help you or to help the situation. You have nothing to be embarrassed about, and I hope you are getting the help that you need to work through this.

[bleeding heart]

I was molested as a child and let me tell you you never forget it, it never goes away. Walk a mile before opening your mouth. Unless you've been sexually abused you will not understand the pain, suffering and embarrassment that goes along with it.

I'm sure people here will make fun of this about me as well so go ahead, I've come to expect it.

Anyone who makes fun of you for this is a lowlife. Sorry for your hardship, by the way.

In fact, your story is exactly why I keep insisting that posters shouldn't, in anger or frustration, accuse other posters of being pedophiles...it's bound to be hurtful to somebody.

I don't share the view here that convicted pedophiles should be able to do whatever they want upon release. Many here do and that's their opinion but I think most parents wouldn't want convicted pedophiles running around unchecked. As I said this isn't your opinion and that's fine.

I cannot understand how people here are defending convicted pedophiles, it's just sick. Does the left wing include some NAMBLA members?

It has nothing to do with the left wing--if anything, arguably it's leftism that first brought attention to the scourge of child molestation.

More to the point, no one is defending convicted child rapists. The only defense has been of people inclined towards pedophilia but who never act upon their desires.

Edited September 16, 2012 by bleeding heart

[g_bambino]

You're trying to make fun of me. That's all anyone ever does here. The point was that you're making fun of me. I don't share the view here that convicted pedophiles should be able to do whatever they want upon release.

I was not making fun of you at all. You missed the point, and I pointed that out. And when you say above, incorrectly, that paedophilia is a crime, it's indicated that you missed the point yet again.

Nobody here has defended child abusers or diminished the impact on their victims. Some of us have simply voiced the fact that "paedophile" does not automatically mean "child molester" and child molesters aren't necessarily paedophiles. And when it comes to labels such as "paedophile" and "child molester", given the very serious consequences that can come to those to whom they're applied, one should be careful about mixing them together and throwing them about.

[ed.: +, c/e]

Edited September 17, 2012 by g_bambino

[Argus]

I was molested as a child and let me tell you you never forget it, it never goes away.

For you, perhaps. Other people's mileage would vary.

Walk a mile before opening your mouth. Unless you've been sexually abused you will not understand the pain, suffering and embarrassment that goes along with it

.

You only know the pain, suffering and embarrassment that you feel. You have no idea what other people feel under other circumstances.

I do know that none of the people I spoke with would have preferred to have been murdered. That was my only point.

[Mr.Canada]

I was not making fun of you at all. You missed the point, and I pointed that out. And when you say above, incorrectly, that paedophilia is a crime, it's indicated that you missed the point yet again.

Nobody here has defended child abusers or diminished the impact on their victims. Some of us have simply voiced the fact that "paedophile" does not automatically mean "child molester" and child molesters aren't necessarily paedophiles. And when it comes to labels such as "paedophile" and "child molester", given the very serious consequences that can come to those to whom they're applied, one should be careful about mixing them together and throwing them about.

[ed.: +, c/e]

My father passed away on Friday so I may not be in the clearest of minds but I doubt that many members of the public will care if a child molester is a pedophile or not. To the majority a child molester gets turned on by prepubescent children, end of story. You can argue semantics all you want it won't change public perception.

I'd like to hear of some experiences of admitted pedophiles who claim they haven't abused children yet as well. Are you willing to take their word on that? For me a pedophile pleasuring themselves in their car while looking at my child is bad enough for me. I don't care if they touch them or not.

Edited September 17, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[cybercoma]

a child molester gets turned on by prepubescent children, end of story.

No. Pedophiles get turned on by pre-pubescent children. Child molesters are people that have sexually abused a child or children regardless of whether or not they are attracted to children sexually.

[Mr.Canada]

No. Pedophiles get turned on by pre-pubescent children. Child molesters are people that have sexually abused a child or children regardless of whether or not they are attracted to children sexually.

So you believe that someone who has sex with a child doesn't get turned on by them? So to you a child molester isn't a pedophile?

They are one and the same to me and to the majority of the public.

Why do people on this site constantly engage in semantics? people here constantly ignore the original statement and instead want to muddy the waters playing games with words. It's frustrating.

[guyser]

Why do people on this site constantly engage in semantics? people here constantly ignore the original statement and instead want to muddy the waters playing games with words. It's frustrating.

Why do you constantly muddy the waters by generalizing and being off topic ?

Words have meanings, if you want to be taken seriously, then be serious and mean what you say.

[Mr.Canada]

Why do you constantly muddy the waters by generalizing and being off topic ?

Words have meanings, if you want to be taken seriously, then be serious and mean what you say.

I started this topic and it's about the new convicted child sex offender information system.

People ignored that and decided to tell me that not all pedophiles are child molesters and vice versa.

Are you defending convicted child sex offenders?