Guest Manny Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 It seems to me that you have no right to criticize if you're speaking as a company rep, but as a private individual the employer can not reach out and punish you for that As long as you don't break any agreements you've made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Its your job to DO YOUR JOB you know that one you would be getting a pay check for, rather then being a political activist on someone else's dime. So protecting the national parks is being a political activist now? Its in their goddamn job description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 They have a duty to their job and their department, not to a political party. Its their duty to support the government regardless of the Party in power, government agency gets orders from the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 So protecting the national parks is being a political activist now? Its in their goddamn job description. Their job is to do what the government tells them to do...seeing as they are government employees...once again let me point out if you don't like where the organization is heading quit or criticize on your own time and without bringing your connection to the agency in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Their job is to do what the government tells them to do...seeing as they are government employees...once again let me point out if you don't like where the organization is heading quit or criticize on your own time and without bringing your connection to the agency in question. That is an abuse of power and you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 They ARE hired to do a job. They were hired to protect the parks not be government shills for the oil industry. What are you saying? Everyone from every department can start to criticize the government they work for? Can you imagine the 454,000 government employees trying to push their agenda? Every Agency will be at standstill because none will work since they will be busy telling the elected government how to do their work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 That is an abuse of power and you know it. How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 What are you saying? Everyone from every department can start to criticize the government they work for? Can you imagine the 454,000 government employees trying to push their agenda? Every Agency will be at standstill because none will work since they will be busy telling the elected government how to do their work. You seem to forget, the government is supposed to take orders from us, not this fucked up military system where we're supposed to be subservient to them, which your kind covets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 What are you saying? Everyone from every department can start to criticize the government they work for? Can you imagine the 454,000 government employees trying to push their agenda? Every Agency will be at standstill because none will work since they will be busy telling the elected government how to do their work. This is like Vic Mackey (The Shield) silencing, arresting, intimdating drug gangs in Farmington, so that the one drug dealer who works for him gets all the money and corners to deal dope. Harper is silencing the scientists, intimdating and silencing the parks canada employees. Doing the same to the environmentalists all for the oil companies. And you have no problem with this cause the government is always right apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 You seem to forget, the government is supposed to take orders from us, not this fucked up military system where we're supposed to be subservient to them, which your kind covets. Didn't you vote in May of 2011? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hugo Chavez does the same thing.. maybe that is where Harper learned it from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 This is like Vic Mackey (The Shield) silencing, arresting, intimdating drug gangs in Farmington, so that the one drug dealer who works for him gets all the money and corners to deal dope. Harper is silencing the scientists, intimdating and silencing the parks canada employees. Doing the same to the environmentalists all for the oil companies. And you have no problem with this cause the government is always right apparently The head of the department takes his orders from his superior who takes his orders from the PM, the one who is voted in to office every 4-5 years. If you work for Microsoft and go online or to the local paper or TV station and criticize them you will not have a job for long. Parks Canada has a job to do, and that job comes down from the government elected by the people of this country, some random guy working in Parks Canada cannot dictate the direction of the Department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hugo Chavez does the same thing.. maybe that is where Harper learned it from. Same what? Telling people don criticize the government while on government time? Don't pretend that you speak for the organization? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) The head of the department takes his orders from his superior who takes his orders from the PM, the one who is voted in to office every 4-5 years. If you work for Microsoft and go online or to the local paper or TV station and criticize them you will not have a job for long. Parks Canada has a job to do, and that job comes down from the government elected by the people of this country, some random guy working in Parks Canada cannot dictate the direction of the Department. Not when corruption is this clear. It couldnt be anymore obvious what he's doing. Harper lost all authority. Edited June 15, 2012 by Anti-Am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Didn't you vote in May of 2011? I did.But the Crime Minister and his band of fraud artists (Doug Finley, Irving Gerstein, Dean Del Mastro and company) have found ways to illegally gain power through fraudulent means. This government's a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Same what? Telling people don criticize the government while on government time? Don't pretend that you speak for the organization? No, getting rid of opponents so that no one can contest him and his authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Not when corruption is this clear. It couldnt be anymore obvious what he's doing. Harper lost all authority. Says you... The PM and the MP's were elected, therefore their decisions are to be followed, if you don't like those decisions vote different next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Says you... The PM and the MP's were elected, therefore their decisions are to be followed, if you don't like those decisions vote different next time. You would be a dim wit not to connect the dots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 No, getting rid of opponents so that no one can contest him and his authority. I don't remember reading anything about a purge of dissident's in the government... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Says you... The PM and the MP's were elected, therefore their decisions are to be followed, if you don't like those decisions vote different next time. Vlad Putin tells Russians the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 You would be a dim wit not to connect the dots. The reasoning behind the decision is irrelevant, what they state is that you are on government time you don't criticize the government, if you want to criticize the government do so on your own time and make it clear that it is your opinion rather then the opinion of the agency you work for. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I don't remember reading anything about a purge of dissident's in the government... He's been protecting the oil industry. People in his cabinet calling environmental charities "foreign money launderers", they called people who opposed pipelines radicals Gutting envrio regulations in the budget. Gagging scientists. Gagging parks Canada employees. This is all public information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signals.Cpl Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Vlad Putin tells Russians the same thing. So? Are you saying that Harper is like Putin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Am Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 The reasoning behind the decision is irrelevant, what they state is that you are on government time you don't criticize the government, if you want to criticize the government do so on your own time and make it clear that it is your opinion rather then the opinion of the agency you work for. Simple as that. It actually does not say when you can or can't criticize them. May not be allowed to at all even off work hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I don't remember reading anything about a purge of dissident's in the government... Really?Let me refresh your memory then. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/06/07/-national-round-table-on-the-environment-and-the-economy-stephen-harper_n_1578839.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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