Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 So what will happen in the Mulcair caucus, who wll be his major players going forward? He will be choosing a deputy leader, or leaders, as well as a shadow cabinet. Layton had a ridiculous shadow cabinet(I beleive there were 70+) with associate critics and deputy critics but I feel Mulcair is more serious about the NDP forming government and will likely appoint a smaller shadow cabinet. Who will he appoint to th ridiculous post of Quebec lieutenant, Nycole Turmel? What will happen to Libby Davies, will she even remain an MP for the next 3+ years? Quote
Smallc Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 I thought he already picked Davies as the deputy leader? Quote
Argus Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 I thought he already picked Davies as the deputy leader? Why would anyone want that .... person... as a symbol of what he represents? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Smallc Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Why would anyone want that .... person... as a symbol of what he represents? I really don't know that...it wouldn't have been my first choice. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 I really don't know that...it wouldn't have been my first choice. I never heard that, I googled her to see if any news articles mentioned it and never anything. I don't know why he would seeing he wanted her booted from cabinet not so long ago. Quote
j44 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 I never heard that, I googled her to see if any news articles mentioned it and never anything. I don't know why he would seeing he wanted her booted from cabinet not so long ago. He told Mansbridge in the interview last night that he would keep her on. Maybe to show unity? Not piss of MPs and the base? Quote
capricorn Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Just now on CTV QP, Fife called Davies "co-deputy leader", whatever that means. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
j44 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Just now on CTV QP, Fife called Davies "co-deputy leader", whatever that means. Who thinks Cullen is going to be the other co-deputy? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 Who thinks Cullen is going to be the other co-deputy? No way. He's not going to choose two from BC. Paul Dewar, Robert Chisholm or even Jack Harris may have a shot, but seeing neither are fluently bilingual it's a bit complicated when Davies is also unilingual. I think having Davies as a co-deputy is a bit weird. I understand wanting to keep the peace but it just looks a bit ridiculous when he has openly criticized her. I think he should have went with Peggy Nash and Nathan Cullen and give Davies a good critic portfolio, probably keeping her in Health. Quote
capricorn Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Brad Lavigne, a familiar face in NDP circles and in the media is moving on after 10 years serving the party. http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/25/team-ndp/ That would explain why Lavigne looked clueless yesterday when asked about the Spanish company hired to manage online voting and the problems encountered with the process. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Brad Lavigne, a familiar face in NDP circles and in the media is moving on after 10 years serving the party. http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/25/team-ndp/ That would explain why Lavigne looked clueless yesterday when asked about the Spanish company hired to manage online voting and the problems encountered with the process. Interesting... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
j44 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 No way. He's not going to choose two from BC. Good point. I never thought of that. Interesting... Very. He looked like he was lying he was so clueless. Quote
TwoDucks Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Even if he doesn't like her, it's good politics to keep her prominent. Wouldn't want the liberals slipping left and stealing their progressive base. Quote
cybercoma Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Why would anyone want that .... person... as a symbol of what he represents? "It's probably better to have [her] inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in." -Lyndon B. JohnsonIt's an olive branch to the labour side of the party to promote unity. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 Even if he doesn't like her, it's good politics to keep her prominent. Wouldn't want the liberals slipping left and stealing their progressive base. Is it good politics? Having someone you've publicly criticized and called for to resign as your co-deputy leader (even if it is a useless position) instead of having someone you have a good working relationship with. It didn't end up being good politics for Chretien and Martin. Quote
j44 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Any predictions on critics? Leslie stay in environment? Can they or will they keep Nash and Dewar in their old spots considering their showing at the convention? Cullen? Singh as adviser or something somewhere? Quote
capricorn Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Any predictions on critics? Leslie stay in environment? Can they or will they keep Nash and Dewar in their old spots considering their showing at the convention? Cullen? Singh as adviser or something somewhere? Mulcair has already given us some hints. “It’s going to be a cascading transition but under the sign of continuity,” Mr. Mulcair told reporters after attending his first caucus meeting as party leader.On Monday, he will change seats on the House of Commons with Nycole Turmel, the woman who served as interim leader since last August. In two weeks time, some critics’ roles will be shuffled. “We have to get all of those extraordinary men and women who ran as candidates in this campaign back into roles in the House,” he explained. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-pitches-unity-tackles-tory-attacks-at-first-ndp-caucus/article2380671/ Seems the losing "extraordinary" candidates will be very prominent on the front benches. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Keepitsimple Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 For what it's worth, I always liked Brad Levigne. Even when he was debating a lost cause, he always did it in an almost likeable way. I'll miss the guy. I'm sure he'll pop up again somewhere. Quote Back to Basics
Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 He seemed to say he wouldn't make any big changes till the Fall, don't know what his thought process behind that is. I guess he just wants to get comfortable as leader but I would think he'd know his MPs well enough to put them in critic positions now that they could hold for at least a year. Quote
Guest Peeves Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 Even if he doesn't like her, it's good politics to keep her prominent. Wouldn't want the liberals slipping left and stealing their progressive base. She's anti-Israel & he's pro Israel. I doubt she'll be around for long. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 She's anti-Israel & he's pro Israel. I doubt she'll be around for long. Frankly....That's a good thing... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 For what it's worth, I always liked Brad Levigne. Even when he was debating a lost cause, he always did it in an almost likeable way. I'll miss the guy. I'm sure he'll pop up again somewhere. I'm thinkin' The Broadbent Institute.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
cybercoma Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I'm thinkin' The Broadbent Institute.... What will Kathleen Monk do? Quote
capricorn Posted March 26, 2012 Report Posted March 26, 2012 I'm thinkin' The Broadbent Institute.... Lavigne previously worked for the BC NDP. Going back to his roots perhaps? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
UofGPolitico Posted March 27, 2012 Report Posted March 27, 2012 Lavigne previously worked for the BC NDP. Going back to his roots perhaps? Seems like a good time as it would appear they are steamrolling to a majority mandate next year. In terms of Mulcair's shadow cabinet, I think what the OP said about trimming its size down is probably a good thing. Make it appear like a cabinet in waiting. It will be more cohesive as opposed to multiple people showing up on the talk shows to talk about the same issue in a given week. The Libby Davies thing is interesting, is she just in this spot in the interim or will Mulcair keep her? I think he will have to do something huge for Nathan Cullen since clearly his supporters put him over the top. However, he needs to have someone from the left-side of that party to keep unity. Nash I think will definitely come in with a top critic position, so that could appease the left. It will be interesting. Angus clearly played his card right too at the convention immediately going to Mulcair after Dewar dropped out. Angus has been one of the most visible MPs the last few months too. He will be rewarded. Quote
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