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No we don't. He tried to influence bureaucrats in the direction of his friend. THAT alone is conflict of interest and corruption of the (purchase) process.

Granted it would have been much more serious if Jaffer had been allocated a public contract, and more serious again if Paradis had received money for his 'assistance'.

However, it is still conflict of interest and corruption of the process.

And Paradis knew that: He knowingly tried to use his influence in the process.

This is your wild fantasy... The ethic commitioner DID NOT say Paradis used his influence on decisions of bureaucrats. Paradis could not know he was violating the ethic code. It took two years for the Ethic commisioner to dig out a clause in the code to interpret possible actions of bureaucrats (which never happened) as "preferential treatment" due to the fact that Paradis recommended them simply to hear what Jaffer proposed.

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http://www.canada.com/sports/Paradis+stayed+former+Nordiques+owner+lodge+during+federal+lobby+arena+Report/6362785/story.html

One day after Quebec City announced it will move ahead — with the help of the province — with an NHL-calibre arena, CTV reported that federal Industry Minister Christian Paradis spent time at the hunting lodge of a former owner of the Quebec Nordiques when federal money was still being sought.

On Monday night, CTV reported that Paradis, when he was public works minister in 2009, stayed at the exclusive lodge of Marcel Aubut. At the time, Aubut was seeking federal money for the $400-million project.

IF Paradis doesn't understand the rules of a MP, then he shouldn't BE sitting in the front row. My understanding of the rules that I heard yesterday, was the fact that Paradis was in the same lodge of the former owner, knowing full well that they wanted a new arena is a conflict of interest, even if nothing happen, which is hard to belive that they never talk about so says Paradis but his press secretary said he did, but nothing happened, so he is in conflict of interest.

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What absolute bullshit. So it is worse to steal a rich man's car than a poor man's car? Typical Conservative logic. As long as the rich aren't affected by new laws because they can afford lawyers to find loopholes and technicalities, we can pass all the laws we want eh? You can bet that the rich won't be affected by mandatory minimum laws like the working class will.

There are at least 5 Corporate Crime Convictions in Canada over the past 7 years....

Can you name them..

Here is 1) Garth Drabinsky.... however, Canada was forced to lay charges to prevent Drabinskys extradition to the United States where he his goose would be cooked.

2) Conrad Black........no wait... the United States Convicted him... hmm...

ok.. find the other 4... lol...

now back to Paradis....

I don't want to see him step down.. he has 3 scandals in almost as many days.. not bad for a guy who appears incompetent and on the take.

:)

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This is your wild fantasy... ...."preferential treatment" due to the fact that Paradis recommended them simply to hear what Jaffer proposed.

Gosh.. someone dealing with Jaffer gets in trouble.. who would think it....

Perhaps he felt sorry for Jaffer or perhaps he wanted the bureaucrats to take care of his Conservatives first.

We won't know.

:)

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IF Paradis doesn't understand the rules of a MP, then he shouldn't BE sitting in the front row. My understanding of the rules that I heard yesterday, was the fact that Paradis was in the same lodge of the former owner, knowing full well that they wanted a new arena is a conflict of interest, even if nothing happen, which is hard to belive that they never talk about so says Paradis but his press secretary said he did, but nothing happened, so he is in conflict of interest.

Applying exactly your logics, only inversed, it is much more plausible that you are not sitting in the front row because you don't understand the rules of a MP.

Having a conflict of interest without having any interest - this is definitely a progressive step in Canadian "popular justice", I think. Didn't Consrvatives always say they wouldn't fund the Quebec arena?

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