DogOnPorch Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 the truth is that the occupation and the growing settlements which annex palestinian land are an indication that israel is not interested in a just peace but to only continue with the status quo. everyone knows that increasing illegal settlements has nothing to do with security. What's a just peace towards people who've activly tried to wipe you out and whose situation is self-created. Should have took what was behind door #2 in 1947 instead of picking the mystery box of war. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) thankfully, rules are not made up whenever a person or country wants. international law would disagree with your comments, because your comments have no merit. israel is part of the UN and they are a signatory to the rules of international law. israel cannot steal palestinian land because they have tanks, jets and helicopters. it just doesn't work that way. Edited January 3, 2012 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
jbg Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 israel is part of the UN and they are a signatory to the rules of international law. israel cannot steal palestinian land because they have tanks, jets and helicopters. it just doesn't work that way. What part of Israel, in your view, is not "Palestinian land"? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
DogOnPorch Posted January 3, 2012 Report Posted January 3, 2012 thankfully, rules are not made up whenever a person or country wants. international law would disagree with your comments, because your comments have no merit. israel is part of the UN and they are a signatory to the rules of international law. israel cannot steal palestinian land because they have tanks, jets and helicopters. it just doesn't work that way. Oddly, these rules of so-called international law only apply to Israel. Let me know when your 'International Law' plans on bringing back South Viet-Nam after North Viet-Nam 'stole their land'. My guess is: Not enough Jews involved for Jihadtards to care. (Crickets chirping) Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 (edited) What part of Israel, in your view, is not "Palestinian land"? this is not about 'my view' or 'your view'. this is about what has been determined by an international body which majority of countries are signatories to, including israel. if you want to know what is considered israeli land and what is not, refer to UN resolution 242, 338, 446and 465 here is information on resolution 465 that clearly explains israel's violations: 5. Determines that all measures taken by Israel to change the physical character, demographic composition, institutional structure or status of the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, or any part thereof, have no legal validity and that Israel's policy and practices of settling parts of its population and new immigrants in those territories constitute a flagrant violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War and also constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East; 6. Strongly deplores the continuation and persistence of Israel in pursuing those policies and practices and calls upon the Government and people of Israel to rescind those measures, to dismantle the existing settlements and in particular to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction and planning of settlements in the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem; the resolution was adopted by 12 votes to none with 3 abstentions. here is canada's position on the settlements: Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip). The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel's obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace. Edited January 4, 2012 by bud Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 No sheet the Arab's accepted UN 242. It would give back everything they risked and LOST plus paving the way for another attempt at destroying Israel from the so-called 1967 lines. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by DogOnPorch . View it anyway? no. --- still waiting on sharkman and jbg to respond to this: As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 Others can see my posts fine. Don't worry, by ignoring my opinion on the Arab-Israeli Conflict you're only showing how closed minded Islamist supporters such as yourself are. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted January 4, 2012 Report Posted January 4, 2012 As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention. The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.I support Israel's continued existence as a Jewish State. The U.S. may have chosen not veto every single one-sided resolution. When there's a resolution calling on North Vietnam to free South Vietnam, or the Russians getting out of the Kuriles, I'll be more interested. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Post To The Left Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Posted January 5, 2012 I support Israel's continued existence as a Jewish State. The U.S. may have chosen not veto every single one-sided resolution. When there's a resolution calling on North Vietnam to free South Vietnam, or the Russians getting out of the Kuriles, I'll be more interested. What about the resolutions to get Morocco out of the West Sahara? Quote
bud Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 I support Israel's continued existence as a Jewish State. The U.S. may have chosen not veto every single one-sided resolution. When there's a resolution calling on North Vietnam to free South Vietnam, or the Russians getting out of the Kuriles, I'll be more interested. cop out. when confronted with facts, try to divert attention away. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
bud Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 hamas is making it difficult for the warmongers. there is a good article by uri avnery which describes israel's problem with hamas and its call to end violence: The Stolen War by URI AVNERY ... But of course, the reasons for Cast Lead II are more serious. Hamas is being accepted by the international community. Their Prime Minister, Isma’il Haniyeh, is now traveling around the Arab and Muslim world, after being shut in Gaza – a kind of Strip-arrest – for four years. Now he can cross into Egypt because the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas’ parent organization, has become a major player there. Even worse, Hamas is about to join the PLO and take part in the Palestinian government. High time to do something about it. Attack Gaza, for example. Compel Hamas to become extremist again. NOT CONTENT with stealing our war, Mash’al is carrying out a series of more sinister actions. By joining the PLO, he is committing Hamas to the Oslo agreements and all the other official deals between Israel and the PLO. He has announced that Hamas accepts a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders. He has let it be known that Hamas would not contest the Palestinian presidency this year, so that the Fatah candidate – whoever that may be – would be elected practically unopposed and be able to negotiate with Israel. All this would put the present Israeli government in a difficult position. link Quote http://whoprofits.org/
jbg Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 What about the resolutions to get Morocco out of the West Sahara? How much press do we hear about that one? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
dre Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 or the Russians getting out of the Kuriles, I'll be more interested. :lol: Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) It's funny because these rules only apply to Jews. Right, South Viet-Nam? South Viet-Nam: Sorry, those of us that survived are running liquor stores in California. Edited January 9, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dre Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 It's funny because these rules only apply to Jews. Right, South Viet-Nam? Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
DogOnPorch Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 Now if you just knew where Viet-Nam is on a map, eh? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 Now if you just knew where Viet-Nam is on a map, eh? Ask the kids these days you'll get 'What's Veitnam?' Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 Ask the kids these days you'll get 'What's Veitnam?' I know! They can't even spell it right. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 I know! They can't even spell it right. That's the Canadian spelling, in Canada's form of English. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Post To The Left Posted January 10, 2012 Author Report Posted January 10, 2012 What about the resolutions to get Morocco out of the West Sahara? How much press do we hear about that one? So what was your point then? Are you trying to say the UN only singles out Israel? Not Russia or North Vietnam? As if this was your point then past UN resolutions to get Morocco out of ... South Morocco proves that the UN doesn't single out just Israel. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 10, 2012 Report Posted January 10, 2012 The Fall of South Viet-Nam happened after the "Israel only" UN242. After the Yom Kippur War, even. Stop pretending otherwise. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
jbg Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 The Fall of South Viet-Nam happened after the "Israel only" UN242. After the Yom Kippur War, even. Stop pretending otherwise. I think responding to idiots and Jew-haters is a poor idea. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bud Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 cannot refute criticism of israel? no problem. just call them jew hater. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted January 15, 2012 Report Posted January 15, 2012 cannot refute criticism of israel? no problem. just call them jew hater. Your continued denial of South Viet-Nam's condition...or lack of condition, rather, when compared to the Middle-East situation is telling. So when can Germany expect East Prussia and Pomerania back from Poland? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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