olp1fan Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Posted December 1, 2011 New jersey has one of the fewest goals for in the eastern conference. Kovy was brought in to score, not back check. Kovy plays D first now instead of his free wheeling offense hes a different player under the NJD system Quote
Shwa Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 OV does not see himself as being in their class of players, and he is right. he is better if he wants to be. Ovechkin has a whole dimension of meanness and physiclaity to his game that those guys only dream of. I agree, but there is always a nice comfy purgatory in NY somewhere. I like OV, he can bring it when he wants. But he has to want to. When he doesn't bad things happen. I would rather see OV give up a dozen goals get the physical side of his game going which at least one expert believed was essential. Quote
Shwa Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 That didn't take long. Out with the Old Leaf and in with the new Old Leaf: Anaheim Ducks fire Carlyle, hire Bruce Boudreau ANAHEIM, CALIF.—Randy Carlyle appeared relieved after his Anaheim Ducks snapped a seven-game skid Wednesday night, figuring his talented club had turned a corner.If only the winningest coach in franchise history had known what was waiting for him around that corner. Fed up with the Ducks’ inexplicably slow start, the club fired the Stanley Cup-winning coach and his staff late Wednesday night. Anaheim swiftly replaced Carlyle with former Washington coach Bruce Boudreau, who was dismissed by the Capitals just two days earlier. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 My bleacher report article said Kane was notorious for not back checking, I'll go with their opinion on the matter. I'll go with actual facts, not opinions. I guess you didn't see the Blackhawks Stanley Cup win a couple years ago, where Kane was a big part on both defence and offence. You simply cannot win Cups unless everybody contributes, and Kane certainly did- both ways. You can win a game of two crusing, but no way can you win four series. Perhaps you were washing your hair or having a nap during the Vancouver Olympics, where the US team cam within a whisker of winning gold, and again Kane was flying- in both ends of the ice. Quote The government should do something.
olp1fan Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Kanes too busy and cheap to back check.. I heard him and his cousin like beating up Taxi drivers for chump change because he is famous now Edited December 1, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
olp1fan Posted December 1, 2011 Author Report Posted December 1, 2011 That didn't take long. Out with the Old Leaf and in with the new Old Leaf: Anaheim Ducks fire Carlyle, hire Bruce Boudreau Yeah, that was quick fast! I expect Carlyle to get hired in Columbus any day now Quote
blueblood Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 I'll go with actual facts, not opinions. I guess you didn't see the Blackhawks Stanley Cup win a couple years ago, where Kane was a big part on both defence and offence. You simply cannot win Cups unless everybody contributes, and Kane certainly did- both ways. You can win a game of two crusing, but no way can you win four series. Perhaps you were washing your hair or having a nap during the Vancouver Olympics, where the US team cam within a whisker of winning gold, and again Kane was flying- in both ends of the ice. I saw those games, Kane was a nothing burger on defense. Heck there was big controversy in Chicago about making Kane a second line center because of his defensive liabilities and it's only very recently that he improved them. However, he won a cup being the weak link on defense. For an elite player to get defensive, that player has to want to be defensive. Ov doesn't not want to be defensive, to counter at McPhee can upgrade his blue line and his third line. Some players have success playing defensively such as datsyuk and some don't. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Shwa Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 I saw those games, Kane was a nothing burger on defense. Heck there was big controversy in Chicago about making Kane a second line center because of his defensive liabilities and it's only very recently that he improved them. However, he won a cup being the weak link on defense. For an elite player to get defensive, that player has to want to be defensive. Ov doesn't not want to be defensive, to counter at McPhee can upgrade his blue line and his third line. Some players have success playing defensively such as datsyuk and some don't. And perhaps it is not even defensive, but the simple ability to want to check. Even a decent forecheck is useful to offensive minded players. Does OV prefer to simply float? Quote
blueblood Posted December 1, 2011 Report Posted December 1, 2011 And perhaps it is not even defensive, but the simple ability to want to check. Even a decent forecheck is useful to offensive minded players. Does OV prefer to simply float? OV is a one trick pony and the league found out his trick. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
olp1fan Posted December 2, 2011 Author Report Posted December 2, 2011 another uninspiring effort by OV and the Caps against their rival pens watch semin be traded before xmas Quote
fellowtraveller Posted December 6, 2011 Report Posted December 6, 2011 Kane was +4 at the Olympics, you don't get ice time much less +4 if you do not backcheck. OV is a one trick pony and the league found out his trick. That is true. He has a couple of signature moves on the rush that opposition teams know about, and he is a shooter that now gets a lot of shots blocked.But he is also very skilled guy, and he will adapt and prosper. Agree about Semin being very expendable, though he is a much bigger trade risk for other teams than Ovechkin. Quote The government should do something.
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