BubberMiley Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 (edited) read wylys post at the top of the page, then edit your own before you embarass yourself again So they aren't hypocrites after all because they don't have to be members of the party to vote for it? I guess you were just confused. Edited October 8, 2011 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
fellowtraveller Posted October 8, 2011 Author Report Posted October 8, 2011 So they aren't hypocrites after all because they don't have to be members of the party to vote for it? I guess you were just confused. You must be a member of the Conservative Party to vote for the election that we are discussing, you know- the one in the OP. The Cons place no restriction on membership other than age and residency in AB. If you are a memeber of the NDP Party(unlike others) you are required as a condition of membership to not be a member or supporter of any other political party. Wyly tells me many of his brethren did just that, since they could not have voted otherwise. Hence, they are hypocrites or perhaps just comfy with the lie to the NDP. I guess you are just ignorant. OK, that was not a guess. Quote The government should do something.
Wild Bill Posted October 8, 2011 Report Posted October 8, 2011 I take cleavage over Fascists any day!!! I'm with ya, Jack! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
BubberMiley Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Hence, they are hypocrites or perhaps just comfy with the lie to the NDP. I guess you are just ignorant. OK, that was not a guess. The discussion was about NDP voters, not NDP party members. Try to keep up next time rather than show your ignorance by calling other people ignorant. How 'bout them Jets? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
fellowtraveller Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Posted October 12, 2011 The discussion was about NDP voters, not NDP party members. Try to keep up next time rather than show your ignorance by calling other people ignorant. How 'bout them Jets? No, the discussion was about the recent Alberta leadership election, and the role played in it by hypocritical NDP party members, who are not permitted by their own rules to particpate in party politics other than their own. Yep, ignorant. Jets? the former Coyotes that were former Jets ? Oh right, that did not happen........ Quote The government should do something.
Smallc Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Jets? the former Coyotes that were former Jets ? Oh right, that did not happen........ Only because of last minute deals. Quote
madmax Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 Once again I marvel at the sheer mass of your lack of understanding of anything about the province you live in... truly amazing! The NDP 'support' in AB last election was 8% and dropping, it is meaningless. Mason will be lucky to keep his own seat, he should just quit now and hand it over to the far more competent Rachel Notley and let her accumulate some pension time. There just aren't 'many NDP voters' in the first place, and I guess they are all hypocrites if they did vote for Redford as their NDP membership forbids them from joing other parties...... The Liberals know they are unlectable, not least because they have no money and an idiot as new leader. That is why they lined up solidly behind Redford, and they will most certainly bring a big chunk of their 26% to the polls next spring to help her out again. It is all they have left. Why would the Alberta Party be a wild card? They have no seats, no money, no hope of getting any of either. They are composed of disappointed Liberals, who have now turned to Redford. I am surprised that the NDP have moved into 2nd place in the polls in Alberta, with the Libs in freefall and the Wildrose having lost its lustre. Its still along way to the next election, but what else can we talk about if a coronation is happening ... again Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Posted October 18, 2011 The increase in NDP support is pretty easy to understand when you think of the Liberal freefall: where are those voters going? What s interesting is not that the NDP would pick up some popular vote, it is only natural that some Libs would refuse to support the Cons. The Libs had 26% of the popular vote last provincial election, that is a lot of votes up for grabs. What is interesting is that many Libs have basically given up on their brand and have become Red Tories. I think it puts the Cons into a lock for election next year, since Wildrose has been isolated and marginalized already. The portion of former Libs that migrate to the NDP will not result in many if any more seats than their current 2. Having Brian Mason remain as NDP leader is an advantage for all the other parties. Quote The government should do something.
fellowtraveller Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Posted October 18, 2011 and what is to be talked about? The most important topic ahead for Alberta and all other provinces is equalization Quote The government should do something.
madmax Posted October 18, 2011 Report Posted October 18, 2011 (edited) and what is to be talked about? The most important topic ahead for Alberta and all other provinces is equalization Well, actually, I would like someone to guide me on what happened to the Wildrose since I thought they would be in a dogfight with the PCs??? And now it looks like their votes vapourized. Edited October 18, 2011 by madmax Quote
fellowtraveller Posted October 18, 2011 Author Report Posted October 18, 2011 Well, actually, I would like someone to guide me on what happened to the Wildrose since I thought they would be in a dogfight with the PCs??? And now it looks like their votes vapourized. Nothing happened to them, it is still the realm of the far right and hardcore Christians, some of whom used to be in the Tories. Much of their supposed popularity is pure, unadulterated media hyperbole and fabrication. The reality is that Alberta and Alberta voters are no different than other Canadians, they are happiest in the middle. And lo and behold, now the Cons have purged themselves of their own right, moved to the middle(sound familiarly like a guy named Harper?)and in the process absorbed a whole bunch of centrists from the Liberals. The hard right was and is always small in number, but it suits media and particularly media from outside the province to pretend otherwise. It gets worse for Wildrose. The Christian groups are sick of losing. They voted for Ted Morton in the 2006 leadership race and lost. They backed the Wildrose earlier and now know that won't get them anything. Morton is a spent force in the Tories, he will never recover from the double leadership asskickings. The churchies will be back quietly in the Tory tent soon - but now they have no champion inside...... so they'll have to accept the moderate Redford too. Lots of credit to Stelmach, he quietly engineered a lot of this prior to departing. I don't think he predicted Redord would win, but it doesn't really matter since her and Gary Mar share much the same politics. Quote The government should do something.
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