Cdn Gap Wdens Between Rich & Poor

[Bro]

lol.Come on,the one thing all you liberals preach is that healthcare is your number 1 priority.

Here is a short quiz.

Which presiding party was the first to make massive cuts to healthcare in Canada to justify "a balanced budget".

You're right,the liberal party of Canada.Wake up,see what is going on.

[Guest eureka]

Actually, it was the Conservative parrty under Mulroney - and I am not a Liberal. The Liberals continued the mayhem with the agreement with the provinces. Interestingly, it was the provinces that demanded a non-dedicated transfer. They got what they wanted and it proved to be insufficient.

From thinking they could hide the problems by having it all in general revenues, the provinces put themselves in a situation where they had inadequate revenues without raising provincial taxes. You know what Alberta, Ontario (under Harris,) and the Reform party and its sponsors thought of taxes.

[Bro]

Non dedicated taxes,really.

[Guest eureka]

Aprpos of the earlier question as to how the poorest fared, here is something from a study by the Centre for Social Justice Foundation as reported in the Toronto Star somewhere more than a year ago,

From 1986 to 1993, the poorest 10% of Canadian families lost 86% of the income they earned. The nexr 10% lost 45% of warned income. The loss for the highrst 10% was 0%.

From 1994 to 1998, the wealthy gained back their losses and more. But, the average earnings of the poorest families continued to fall - by another $690These echo the findings through every economic cycle sice 1973. The "Gap" has been widening since that year.

[Bro]

When you provide stats,at least make them look like they could be plausible

The fact remains,it is the middle class who continue to carry the ever increasing tax burden,initiated by the onset of the Trudeau era,and has continued ever since.

Higher taxes produce higher unemployment,thus higher

number of poor people,and the cycle continues,with a wider radius every turn.

[Guest eureka]

If you do not think those stats plausible, then try to dispute them. They are drawn from an article that is in front of me as I type. Unfortunately, I cannot give you the date of the piece since the clipping is not dated. It was, however, before the introduction of the 2003 budget by then Finance Minister Martin since it is intended for his attention. The figures themselves are culled from Statscan and, are within the range of knowledge of anyone who does not approach with an ideological bias.

Higher taxes do not lead to higher unemployment. That is a given and adequately demonstrated around the world. The higher taxed developed societies ALL have lower unemployment than the lower taxed.

Spare me the mantra of the poor middle classes. Poverty in Canada is amongst the highest rates in the Western world. Interestingly, we are one of the very worst in child poverty but not bad in senior poverty.

Try attending to the reality of the redistribution of the tax burden as well as wealth and income to the richest groups. If you want middle class tax reduction, take it back from them and share with the more vulnerable sectors.

[Bro]

Higher taxes do not lead to higher unemployment. That is a given and adequately demonstrated around the world. The higher taxed developed societies ALL have lower unemployment than the lower taxed.

LOL.Stop reading facts from the leftie guide that swears to keep you clueless.

If higher taxed countries ever did have a lower ue rate,it is because there are more jobs created to hand out the tax money.

Have you ever heard about the concept of economic stimulus,it usually involves job creation.That means real jobs,not people handing out tax money,or people hired by the gov. of the day to do studies on how well off the middle class have it.

[Bro]

Spare me the mantra of the poor middle classes. not bad in senior poverty.

Seniors reduced to one bath a week at nursing homes,

that's a pretty good standard of living,isn't it?

With your type of idealogy though,we can find money for much more important things,like supplying needles for drug addicts,but of course you might be right,that creates a job for someone to go the park before the small kids arrive to pick up the used needles;leftist thinking at it's best.

Maybe we should send a memo to diabetics,who pay for their needles,that when they're done with them,to throw them in the nearest playground,and presto,you have created another job for someone.

[Bro]

Try attending reality

Maybe that's something better left for you to try.

I live in the real world.

[Guest eureka]

So, do you have any arguments to make to back up your denial of reality?

Everything I gave you is verifiable facr. Are just another of those who think "leftie" is a pejorative and use it when they have no knowledge to call on and no knowledge of the beliefs of the person they think they are insulting.

[Cartman]

Stop reading facts from the leftie guide that swears to keep you clueless.

Well where should Eureka gets "facts" from? Arthur Anderson, Worldcom, Xerox, Tyco, Nortel, Enron? Need I say more? StatsCan seems as legit as any to me.

With your type of idealogy though,we can find money for much more important things,like supplying needles for drug addicts,but of course you might be right,that creates a job for someone to go the park before the small kids arrive to pick up the used needles;leftist thinking at it's best.

Never ceases to amaze me how right wingers sling mud when their logic and evidence is inadequate. Keep slingin and you will win.

[Bro]

With your type of idealogy though,we can find money for much more important things,like supplying needles for drug addicts,but of course you might be right,that creates a job for someone to go the park before the small kids arrive to pick up the used needles;leftist thinking at it's best.

Never ceases to amaze me how right wingers sling mud when their logic and evidence is inadequate. Keep slingin and you will win.

Never ceases to amaze me how your type would leave out the other two paragraphs in my post.

Dealing with elderly people would involve some compassion though,and obviously the left does not have any.Hypocrits you are.

[Guest eureka]

It may have escaped your notice (you appear to read only whst you wsnt to read) But I mever said that the elderly were well treated. I said that, in comparison with other developed countries, we are one of the worst with respect to child poverty. We are not so bad with respect to the elderly (seniors). That mrans what it says: we are better than most developed countries in that area. However, it is not good enough when significant poverty exists also in the latter group.

In poverty, generally and overall, we are still one of the worst.

[Cartman]

All political parties right and left agreed to eradicate child poverty in Canada but efforts thus far have not been effective. Hopefully this new Parliament will make some progress. We should give them a chance.