Syria Next?

[GostHacked]

It's hard to say that a world where people can get their political information from entertainment is worse than one where they have to secretly pass pamphlets to each other on the street.

The movie is a documentary. But even before that, I knew the bailouts were a bad thing. It's essentially rewarding bad practices. I do suggest you give it a watch. I promise it won't be a waste of your time.

[Post To The Left]

Israeli think tank talks about the deteriorating situation in Syria:

“For today’s Israeli decision-makers, keeping the status quo in Syria with Bashar Assad in power is vastly preferable to getting into a period of political struggle,” he said. “Since 1973 Israel has had a peaceful border with Syria and it’s been able to hold onto the Golan Heights. Why change?” -- Bloomberg

[GostHacked]

So when does NATO go in for 'humanitarian needs' ???

What about Bahrain? Can't the US 5th fleet based in Bahrain take care of that?

So what is after Syria? Iran?

[M.Dancer]

So when does NATO go in for 'humanitarian needs' ???

What about Bahrain? Can't the US 5th fleet based in Bahrain take care of that?

So what is after Syria? Iran?

warmonger

[GostHacked]

warmonger

But being the mocker you are, I know you mean the opposite.

[M.Dancer]

But being the mocker you are, I know you mean the opposite.

Mocking =opposite

[Bob]

I just realized how ridiculous the OP is, as if Israel has any influence on what happens in Syria.

And since when is a professor at a very left-wing Israeli university an "Israeli think-tank"? She's just trying to reinforce the empty rhetoric of Israel "supporting" (how does Israel do that, exactly?) its "allies" Egypt and Jordan. Perhaps big changes would be nice in Syria, considering that the Syrian government is complicit in the murder of Israelis/Jews by supporting terrorists such as Hezbollah and Hamas.

Edited March 31, 2011 by Bob

[GostHacked]

Stuff has been continually going on in Syria in the past couple weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13130401

Syrian security forces opened fire to disperse a mass anti-government protest in the country's third-largest city of Homs, witnesses have said.

Hours after the interior ministry warned it would not tolerate an "armed insurrection", security forces swarmed into a main square in Homs before dawn.

One protester told the BBC he had seen someone shot dead.

Activists say about 200 Syrians have died in weeks of unrest challenging the rule of President Bashar al-Assad.

Where is the humanitarian aid for Syrians? Or does Syria have natural resources to exploit?

[M.Dancer]

Stuff has been continually going on in Syria in the past couple weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13130401

Where is the humanitarian aid for Syrians?

And what would you suggest?

[GostHacked]

And what would you suggest?

Doing the opposite of what we are doing in Libya .. ... the West needs to stay out of it. Not our problem.

[M.Dancer]

Doing the opposite of what we are doing in Libya .. ... the West needs to stay out of it. Not our problem.

So in your opinion what we are doing is what you want us to be doing....

What you are doing though, is trolling

[GostHacked]

So in your opinion what we are doing is what you want us to be doing....

Yes, the west needs to stay out of the Middle East and Northern Africa. Not our problem.

What you are doing though, is trolling

No, what I am doing is showing some hypocracy. But if you think I am trolling, hit the report button. But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and will wait to see if you have anything of real value to say and add here. Actually, call it a challenge, if you are up for it.

Edited April 19, 2011 by GostHacked

[M.Dancer]

Yes, the west needs to stay out of the Middle East and Northern Africa. Not our problem.

No, what I am doing is showing some hypocracy. But if you think I am trolling, hit the report button. But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and will wait to see if you have anything of real value to say and add here. Actually, call it a challenge, if you are up for it.

Add value to trolling...?

I can turn your trolling into something of value though...

Instead of aiding Syrian protest movement, as we are the libyan rebels, the west should do nothing for Syria. While the Libyan protest coalesced into a defacto civil war, and the geographical proximity allows the west to project force and aid the rebels, Syria presents different challenges.

1) The protests have not turned into a viable movement that has gained support from within the Syrian regime..no army officers has defected to the protest movement.

2)Syria has a formidable anti aircraft capability as well as a large airforce making the establishment of a no fly zone hazardous. (and premature, see point 1)

The best course of action for the west is to ensure that the protest movement is kept on the radar and that the lines of communication between themselves and the outside world are always open

There, I turned your post into something with a modicum of intelligence.

See if you can do the same

Edited April 19, 2011 by M.Dancer

[GostHacked]

Add value to trolling...?

I can turn your trolling into something of value though...

I don't troll, never have, never will. I post my opinions about things. But again, if you think I troll, then hit that report button on every post I make. And it seems that only trollers say I am trolling, because those are the ones who quote my post to say I am trolling.

Instead of aiding Syrian protest movement, as we are the libyan rebels, the west should do nothing for Syria. While the Libyan protest coalesced into a defacto civil war, and the geographical proximity allows the west to project force and aid the rebels, Syria presents different challenges.

1) The protests have not turned into a viable movement that has gained support from within the Syrian regime..no army officers has defected to the protest movement.

Does this mean that only when the uprising is good enough will the west support it?

2)Syria has a formidable anti aircraft capability as well as a large airforce making the establishment of a no fly zone hazardous. (and premature, see point 1)

Part of the reason why North Korea won't be invaded regarldess of it being on the Axis of Evil list .. it has a formidable military.

The best course of action for the west is to ensure that the protest movement is kept on the radar and that the lines of communication between themselves and the outside world are always open

I interperet this as 'The west will have to do more covert actions within Syria in order to get the populous to rise against the Syrian government.' Kind of like what the west did with Libya (aka British SAS soldiers on the ground in Libya weeks before the uprising began). I also suspect the same happened in Tunisia and Egypt, but I have not really seen any proof of that yet. Althought Egypt's Google Exec did seem to have quite a large role in the uprising there.

There, I turned your post into something with a modicum of intelligence.

See if you can do the same

Well, you actually came through with a decent post. Congrats!. I appreciate it. Hope this is a trend for you.

[M.Dancer]

.I also suspect the same happened in Tunisia and Egypt, but I have not really seen any proof of that yet.

Who needs proof to suspect something....like long dead financiers being part of the Bilderberg group...as long as you suspect...

[GostHacked]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13096829

Since regime change was not in the original resolution, a new one will be drawn up to make sure regime change happens. When that happens, expect NATO boots on the ground in Libya. It might take a couple months, but since advisors are being sent to Libya to inform and train the rebels, this guarantees that the UN and NATO are going to have a full scale invasion of Libya very soon. All that is needed is the resolution, because as far as I understand, the troops are stationed pretty close by.

[scouterjim]

Why is it every time there is a revolt in an Arab nation, somebody immediately says" Oh! The Muslim Brotherhood will take over!!"?

[jbg]

Why is it every time there is a revolt in an Arab nation, somebody immediately says" Oh! The Muslim Brotherhood will take over!!"?

Basically because the liberty-oriented groups aren't well organized for post-revolt government but the Brotherhood is. The democratic elements in both Iran and Bangladesh spearheaded their respective revolutions against the Shah and West Pakistan but were quickly thrust aside by the better-organized conservative Muslims.

[GostHacked]

Basically because the liberty-oriented groups aren't well organized for post-revolt government but the Brotherhood is. The democratic elements in both Iran and Bangladesh spearheaded their respective revolutions against the Shah and West Pakistan but were quickly thrust aside by the better-organized conservative Muslims.

Another example of the west trying to meddle with other countries in the region which results in something worse than what they wanted. Or is the west helping the Muslim Brotherhood (indirectly, unintentionally) by helping these uprisings and civil wars against the regimes of those countries?

The only one not willing to go quietly is Gaddafi it seems.

[GostHacked]

So over the past couple weeks the protests in Syria have been ramping up, and very soon it will be coming to a head.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/04/22/syria-friday-protests.html

Syrian security forces fired live bullets and tear gas Friday on pro-democracy demonstrations across the country, killing at least 49 people, according to a prominent human rights group.

The dead included a young boy, witnesses said as the uprising against President Bashar Assad's authoritarian regime defied a deadly security crackdown.

So when does the UN/NATO go in for 'humanitarian' reasons?

[M.Dancer]

So when does the UN/NATO go in for 'humanitarian' reasons?

Around the time you stop trolling.

[GostHacked]

Around the time you stop trolling.

The hypocracy knows no boundries. UN/NATO goes in one country for humanitarian reasons, and not others. Can you answer that? I mean can you really answer that without acting like the way you usually do? Consider it a challenge M. Dancer.

[M.Dancer]

The hypocracy knows no boundries. UN/NATO goes in one country for humanitarian reasons, and not others. Can you answer that? I mean can you really answer that without acting like the way you usually do? Consider it a challenge M. Dancer.

I can.... but it's more fun to help you educate yourself, rather than vainly try to educate you when you are so clearly opposed to learning.

So here's the plan.

You pretend you are the SC of Nato...

Tell me how you are going to do it, given the mandate is to avoid unneeded deaths, how are you going to go in?

Edited April 22, 2011 by M.Dancer

[GostHacked]

I can.... but it's more fun to help you educate yourself, rather than vainly try to educate you when you are so clearly opposed to learning.

So here's the plan.

You pretend you are the SC of Nato...

Tell me how you are going to do it, given the mandate is to avoid unneeded deaths, how are you going to go in?

Well since you love to read my posts, unless you have a short attention span, I advocate staying out of it. I'd rather not have Canadian forces involved in Libya. I want to pull them out of Afghanistan as well.

Libya is not my country, and not my problem.

[Guest American Woman]

Libya is not my country, and not my problem.

That's pretty cold. If Canada were having a crisis, how would you feel if the world took the "not my country and not my problem" attitude?