ironboltbruce Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Why are we converting asphalt roads to gravel so Lockheed Martin can build a fence in space? U.S. total debt $55.6 trillion, U.S. federal debt $14.1 trillion, U.S. federal deficit $1.3 trillion, U.S. dollar rapidly losing world reserve currency status, as U.S. politicians bought and paid for by multinational corporations (legalized by Citizens United vs. FEC) cut education, close schools, convert asphalt roads to gravel and accelerate America's loss of competitive edge to pay Lockheed Martin and other repeat-offender federal contractors billions for "space fences", Rube Goldberg weapons systems and myriad military and non-defense boondoggles as unnecessary, unaffordable and unjustifiable as our unending wars for oil and profit: Defense Department Contract Awards Press Release (1 of 000s) http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4457 Austerity In America: 22 Signs That It Is Already Here And That It Is Going To Be Very Painful http://www.benzinga.com/11/01/784591/austerity-in-america-22-signs-that-it-is-already-here-and-that-it-is-going-to-be-very-p Citizens United vs. FEC http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/citizens-opinion.pdf 2010 Top 100 Government Contractors http://washingtontechnology.com/GIG/washingtontechnology/TopLists/Top-100-Lists/2010.aspx POGO Federal Contractor Misconduct Database http://www.contractormisconduct.org/index.cfm U.S. Debt Clock http://www.usdebtclock.org Watching Frogs Boil: America in Decline http://watchingfrogsboil.com ### Source: http://watchingfrogsboil.com/why-are-we-converting-asphalt-roads-to-gravel Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Why are we converting asphalt roads to gravel so Lockheed Martin can build a fence in space? Because we can. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Why are we converting asphalt roads to gravel so Lockheed Martin can build a fence in space? U.S. total debt $55.6 trillion, U.S. federal debt $14.1 trillion, U.S. federal deficit $1.3 trillion, U.S. dollar rapidly losing world reserve currency status, as U.S. politicians bought and paid for by multinational corporations (legalized by Citizens United vs. FEC) cut education, close schools, convert asphalt roads to gravel and accelerate America's loss of competitive edge to pay Lockheed Martin and other repeat-offender federal contractors billions for "space fences", Rube Goldberg weapons systems and myriad military and non-defense boondoggles as unnecessary, unaffordable and unjustifiable as our unending wars for oil and profit: No one is building a fence in space. The "space fence program" is a colloquial name for a couple of ground radar stations that are designed to detect objects whose orbits pass over America. Edited January 27, 2011 by Bonam Quote
GWiz Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Because we can. LOL, too true, too true that... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
WIP Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 I found an interview with William Hartung, author of "Prophets Of War" about the power and influence on government that this one, lone defense contractor has: Yahoo Finance They, and no doubt every other contractor, works through lobbying and a revolving door policy similar to Wall Street Banks, where their executives move back and forth from the company to the Administration and back. That way they have government policy fine-tuned to their corporate needs....just like Goldman Sachs. But re: the question of why America is willing to grind down its own infrastructure (including education) to keep funneling money into Defense, up until now, they've been able to get away with it by adding to the National Debt. Eventually they will destroy the Empire if they keep adding to defense budgets; but it's not a given that America will reign in its massive military in time. Past empires have collapsed under the weight of supporting large armies and colonies, there's no sign yet that America will pull back from the brink of collapse either. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 .... Past empires have collapsed under the weight of supporting large armies and colonies, there's no sign yet that America will pull back from the brink of collapse either. ....and why should America do so? Canadians, Britains, Australians, French, Germans, Japanese, Spanish, etc. all live quite well in their versions of "collapsed" empires. Tis better to have been..... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GWiz Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 ....and why should America do so? Canadians, Britains, Australians, French, Germans, Japanese, Spanish, etc. all live quite well in their versions of "collapsed" empires. Tis better to have been..... Ummm, when exactly did Canada "collapse"? Australians? Neither of those two were ever "empires" in any sense of the term... As well Britain and France never "collapsed", only their imperialistic holdings left them to become independent nations, hardly the same thing... BTW - by any chance were you on the Hannity Forum any time between '98 and '06, if you were you'll know me, same "handle"... Of course I'm much more "mellow" on here than I was there... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Ummm, when exactly did Canada "collapse"? Australians? Neither of those two were ever "empires" in any sense of the term... As well Britain and France never "collapsed", only their imperialistic holdings left them to become independent nations, hardly the same thing... But they were part of the now "fallen" British Empire. Life there is not so bad, eh? BTW - by any chance were you on the Hannity Forum any time between '98 and '06, if you were you'll know me, same "handle"... Of course I'm much more "mellow" on here than I was there... Nope...seek true love elsewhere. Edited January 27, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
ironboltbruce Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Posted January 28, 2011 No one is building a fence in space. The "space fence program" is a colloquial name for a couple of ground radar stations that are designed to detect objects whose orbits pass over America. Either Raytheon and Lockheed Martin just banked $107 million each to design "a couple of ground radar stations", or you don't know your butt from third base. One more time: http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4457 This is called a "uniform resource locator", or "URL", or "hyperlink", or simply "link". Ask the nearest teenager to help you access the DOD press release it refers to ... and read it to you. Quote
GWiz Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 But they were part of the now "fallen" British Empire. Life there is not so bad, eh? When you fall you don't necessarily "collapse", eh... Life is actually GREAT... I'm just looking into buying a couple of dirt cheap condo units in Florida to rent out and make some money with... Keep up the good work down there... Thanks to Bush/Cheney and the American "right" we up here in Canukistan are appreciating where we live a whole lot more... Nope...seek true love elsewhere. No worries my friend, I've got all the love I'll ever need... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) When you fall you don't necessarily "collapse", eh... Life is actually GREAT... I'm just looking into buying a couple of dirt cheap condo units in Florida to rent out and make some money with... Good luck with that....the Americans and other multi-nationals have been doing that for years in Canada with much larger deals. The American experiment has been wildly successful no matter what happens....expectations were set by Americans, not Canada or myths derived from watching too many Hollywood productions. Keep up the good work down there... Thanks to Bush/Cheney and the American "right" we up here in Canukistan are appreciating where we live a whole lot more... Then all is well...the Americans will carry on not noticing or caring either way, while you watch every Yankee move. Edited January 28, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bonam Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Either Raytheon and Lockheed Martin just banked $107 million each to design "a couple of ground radar stations", or you don't know your butt from third base. One more time: http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4457 This is called a "uniform resource locator", or "URL", or "hyperlink", or simply "link". Ask the nearest teenager to help you access the DOD press release it refers to ... and read it to you. Oh I know how to use a link, but apparently you don't know how to use Google. Space Fence Program: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Surveillance_System Quote
dre Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Good luck with that....the Americans and other multi-nationals have been doing that for years in Canada with much larger deals. The American experiment has been wildly successful no matter what happens....expectations were set by Americans, not Canada or myths derived from watching too many Hollywood productions. Then all is well...the Americans will carry on not noticing or caring either way, while you watch every Yankee move. Then all is well...the Americans will carry on not noticing or caring either way, while you watch every Yankee move. I know at least one American that cares. He spends thousands of hours obsessing on what Canadians think of Americans Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
GWiz Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 I know at least one American that cares. He spends thousands of hours obsessing on what Canadians think of Americans ROTFLOL!!!! Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 Good luck with that....the Americans and other multi-nationals have been doing that for years in Canada with much larger deals. The American experiment has been wildly successful no matter what happens....expectations were set by Americans, not Canada or myths derived from watching too many Hollywood productions. Then all is well...the Americans will carry on not noticing or caring either way, while you watch every Yankee move. dre said it best! Thanks again, you made my day... btw - Do you know how much of your "national debt" is OWNED by Canada from all those trade surpluses from years past? Look it up some time... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 dre said it best! Thanks again, you made my day... btw - Do you know how much of your "national debt" is OWNED by Canada from all those trade surpluses from years past? Look it up some time... Canada is just one of many nations holding US notes...the most reliable game in town. Just ask the Chinese. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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