Argus Posted December 7, 2010 Report Posted December 7, 2010 This is the root of the problem. How many government facilities are there? Are they all booked up 24/7, 365 days a year? If the answer is no, then the reality is that funds were spent that need not have been. Five grand an hour! That is a crime. There are no large meeting halls owned by the government that I'm aware of, not in Ottawa. In fact, there are a lot of things I think the government ought to have, such as its own language teachers and software trainers, couriers and shuttle bus drivers, and yes, big places for people to have large get-togethers. but all that was done away with for privatization purposes long ago. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
guyser Posted December 7, 2010 Report Posted December 7, 2010 But some of you seem to believe the government ought to provide the most miserable workplace it can to its employees, make them as unhappy and bitter as it can. This is supposed to encourage public servants to work harder? All I know is the Min of Transport employees sure as hell are and it doesnt seem to stem from the workplace. They just arrive in a perpetual PMS state. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted December 7, 2010 Report Posted December 7, 2010 In many cases, that's the simple solution. But in some situations, such as training sessions or structured lengthy meetings/presentations, breaking up a group brought together for specific purposes would be counter productive. These pre-planned gatherings usually have a set agenda. Letting attendees loose to leave the premises for a refreshment break throws everything off. Invariably, they won't all return at the same time and will have been distracted from the purpose of the gathering. The more effective method is to keep the group present for the duration and that would require them having their break together. Providing coffee, juice and a muffin is a small price to pay for the sake of efficiency and productivity. Agreed. Good point. It's not, by the way, that I begrudge these people their coffee and muffin, my point is solely that we need to start cutting back across the board. Stuff like this is the low hanging fruit. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Jerry J. Fortin Posted December 7, 2010 Report Posted December 7, 2010 There are no large meeting halls owned by the government that I'm aware of, not in Ottawa. In fact, there are a lot of things I think the government ought to have, such as its own language teachers and software trainers, couriers and shuttle bus drivers, and yes, big places for people to have large get-togethers. but all that was done away with for privatization purposes long ago. Didn't the government just buy a campus in Ottawa? Quote
Argus Posted December 8, 2010 Report Posted December 8, 2010 Didn't the government just buy a campus in Ottawa? It bought the old Nortel facility which will be used to relocate the military, currently jammed into a number of buildings in and around downtown. I'm sure they have meeting rooms but it's not like they can hold regular meetings for 6hundreds of people there. The biggest actual government conference room I've seen, if configured correctly, could hold a couple of hundred people. But you're not going to be bringing people from different branches and agencies into that building on a regular basis for security reasons. Not to mention a nearly complete lack of visitor parking, and any amenities nearby. For large meetings the government goes to the private sector. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted December 8, 2010 Report Posted December 8, 2010 All I know is the Min of Transport employees sure as hell are and it doesnt seem to stem from the workplace. They just arrive in a perpetual PMS state. The only thing I know about Transport is a few words at a union meeting where it was described as a rats nest of hostility between management and staff, and the source of numerous complaints and grievances. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
William Ashley Posted December 10, 2010 Report Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) We all knew what the Tories are like on spending and here is an example that Harper does too. He approved $7400.00 for refreshments for the PCO. Why can't these people buy their own? They make good money from the taxpayers, is it too much trouble? I like to know from the Tories on this board, what exactly they think about the spending habits about the Tories and what are they going to do about it? http://beta.ca.news.yahoo.com/prime-minister-personally-approves-7-400-hospitality-tab.html For a continuously in deficit government these enterainment bonuses is a waste of money. Personally I wouldn't drink a glass harper filled for me anyway - the guy is totally disrespectful for fundamental law.. yet he puts on a smile and Canadians applaud. Who cares... but Parliament should have to raise its own funds you know like making money from non tax payer funds.. you know a government that can operate on its own merits.. you know responsible government.. ... Fact is though government doesn't care about being responsible.. it is more about just doing their own thing these days.. Canadians don't care... 7400 is just a drop in the bucket... Hey it is only the future that is being effected.. the roof isn't on fire for those in orgy... so the orgy continues.... plenty of wage slaves to feed the fury. Edited December 10, 2010 by William Ashley Quote I was here.
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