William Ashley Posted June 18, 2010 Report Posted June 18, 2010 Should Canadians be forced to share their private health records with anyone who has access to the system. Ever gone to a doctor, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a physiotherapist? Maybe had kinky sex, what about depression, that past drug use twenty or thirty years ago... DO YOU REALLY WANT ALL YOUR HEALTH RECORDS available to anyone who has a computer connected to the federal health database? While it is great for people who would like their doctor to have it, what about those who don't want all their health records to be available for anyone who does a records search. If you arn't aware the federal health database is putting all medical facilities records onto file that anyone within the network can access them - this is the CPIC for health information. This is ongoing - do you really want your health records to become as easy for someone to obtain as a criminal background check? This is in combination with healthcare systems such as ontario that 1. forces you to take treatment 2. now will have all medical information ever kept on you whether willing or unwilling - whether accurate or not accurate available to anyone who knows someone able to access the system - and this is no small number of people throughout the country. Quote I was here.
William Ashley Posted June 18, 2010 Author Report Posted June 18, 2010 http://www.infoway-inforoute.ca/lang-en/about-ehr/ehr-progress-map here is part of the project that will do just that. Quote I was here.
Michael Hardner Posted June 19, 2010 Report Posted June 19, 2010 Yes, it`s much better for there to be paper records lying around everywhere and faxes being sent. The companies involved will be tasked with making the system secure, no doubt. The politicization of eHealth, though, ensures that eventually, and with great care, consultation and patience on all sides... nothing will be done. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bjre Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 Yes, it`s much better for there to be paper records lying around everywhere and faxes being sent. The companies involved will be tasked with making the system secure, no doubt. The politicization of eHealth, though, ensures that eventually, and with great care, consultation and patience on all sides... nothing will be done. The purpose of that is only for big companies to do robbery on tax dollar. If you say yes, the price should be decided by voters instead of the service providers. A company can even lower price by online price competition system, why a country with so many people can not? Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 The purpose of that is only for big companies to do robbery on tax dollar. If you say yes, the price should be decided by voters instead of the service providers. A company can even lower price by online price competition system, why a country with so many people can not? This isn't China - the government can't force a company to do work for free, under threat of torture, firing squad or (in the case of Google) expulsion. It seems you haven't yet fathomed how Canada works. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bjre Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) This isn't China - the government can't force a company to do work for free, under threat of torture, firing squad or (in the case of Google) expulsion. It seems you haven't yet fathomed how Canada works. No, it is not, here big companies have money, they have lobbyist, they control government. They control big media, they give out misleading information such as H1N1 pandemic, they make people vote those who the big companies love so that the lawmakers can help them to take more money. by the way, Google is the company that provide private information to US government. They get out of China immediately after Chinese writers sue them scan their works and put them online without notify them. Edited June 22, 2010 by bjre Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
Michael Hardner Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 No, it is not, here big companies have money, they have lobbyist, they control government. They control big media, they give out misleading information such as H1N1 pandemic, they make people vote those who the big companies love so that the lawmakers can help them to take more money. Again, you don't really understand. There is open and free information here, which is a better system for determining what is true than, say, in North Korea or China or Albania. You have done this in the past, and pretty much everyone on the board has pointed it out to you but you still haven't learned. But, once again: By pointing out a few flaws in our system, you don't make a convincing argument that things are the same (or worse) here. by the way, Google is the company that provide private information to US government. They get out of China immediately after Chinese writers sue them scan their works and put them online without notify them. They were also complicit in helping the Chinese government keep images away from Chinese eyes of course. China wants control, Google wants money - a match made in heaven. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bjre Posted June 22, 2010 Report Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Again, you don't really understand. There is open and free information here, which is a better system for determining what is true than, say, in North Korea or China or Albania. You have done this in the past, and pretty much everyone on the board has pointed it out to you but you still haven't learned. But, once again: By pointing out a few flaws in our system, you don't make a convincing argument that things are the same (or worse) here. There is open and free information in China, sometimes even much free than here due to there is much less law than here. I did not see any way or method in current system here can prevent big companies from taking more and more money from most people here and around the world extremely unfair leveraged with their lobbyists and media lies. They were also complicit in helping the Chinese government keep images away from Chinese eyes of course. China wants control, Google wants money - a match made in heaven. Perhaps they also pursue global government idea try to control governments include the Canadian one. Edited June 22, 2010 by bjre Quote "The more laws, the less freedom" -- bjre "There are so many laws that nearly everybody breaks some, even when you just stay at home do nothing, the only question left is how thugs can use laws to attack you" -- bjre "If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
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