A Canadian woman said she is ashamed to be a Canadian

[Topaz]

Did any of you watched the rest of the videos? I think the message is that politicans, here PM after winning one of his elections, was giving a speech about how Canadians are strong and free and justice for all etc. Well, these people in the videos found out that not so when it comes to the police,the justice system and CAS. I think though its more a provincial affair than a federal, but, it could be both, I guess.

[bjre]

Did any of you watched the rest of the videos? I think the message is that politicans, here PM after winning one of his elections, was giving a speech about how Canadians are strong and free and justice for all etc. Well, these people in the videos found out that not so when it comes to the police,the justice system and CAS. I think though its more a provincial affair than a federal, but, it could be both, I guess.

Human rights issue in Canada is not just in Ontario, CAS is everywhere. Bully happened everywhere too.

[bjre]

Ummmm. People's "rights" are being taken away all the time due to 'something they do wrong.' Try killing someone and see how long you maintain your "rights."

Do you mean people's right should be taken away when they did something wrong same as a murder?

The woman did not kill any other. I assume you did not. And you still did not answer my question, have you ever did something wrong? if you did, do you believe you should be treated same as a murder?

CAS didn't take away "all her human rights," it took away her right to custody of her child. But please enlighten me. How do you know "it wasn't her fault," and what, exactly, is "it?" Nowhere in that video does it so much as touch on either one of those issues.

The point is CAS being the evil. They legally attacked the woman based on lies. They knew that clearly. They fear of truth. They intentionally bully the woman with lies. As soon as they find the woman has the evidence, they began to fear and close the case as soon as possible with no reason clarified. Here is the other piece of the video about the woman which shows the true face of the evil CAS:

This video gives one mother's testimony on the subject of secretly recording conversations with child protection workers at all times.

Legislators in every jurisdiction should pass legislation to protect parents and children by giving them the RIGHT to openly record all conversations and meetings with child protection workers. This will put an end to much of the abuse of children and families by workers who abuse their power and authority in secret.

Child protection workers who do their jobs honestly and professionally should have nothing to fear from openly recording meetings. Yet, everyday, workers and CAS lawyers threaten parents who attempt to record openly.

What are these child protection workers and thier taxpayer funded lawyers so afraid of?

Edited April 3, 2010 by bjre

[bjre]

You have asked all the unanswered questions.This womans plea falls on deaf ears in this case.

Besides this thread should be in Federal politics. This is not a federal issue. This is a left wing snow job on Harper. Don`t fall for this one folks.

This is not about left wing or right wing, it is about human right. As you so care about women's human right even in a Muslim country, I suppose you will be more care about human right in your homeland and will be willing to fight for it, instead of fearing the topic and try to deny it with all your courage and integrity lost suddenly.

There are many such things, for example, here: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=13562&view=findpost&p=527066

Edited April 3, 2010 by bjre

[dizzy]

The point is CAS being the evil. They legally attacked the woman based on lies. They knew that clearly. They fear of truth. They intentionally bully the woman with lies. As soon as they find the woman has the evidence, they began to fear and close the case as soon as possible with no reason clarified. Here is the other piece of the video about the woman which shows the true face of the evil CAS:

I've already stated that I have a heap of complaints about the CAS system. But I don't believe that there is a systematic strategy to steal away kids from people simply because they've made mistakes. Most CAS orgs have in-home interventions as their first objective. If it does not seem like a safe environment can be provided, then removal of the children to a foster home is the next step. The last step, to permanently remove a child, takes the involvement of the courts and serious consideration from many parties. It takes a lot of breakdown on the part of the parent for a child to become a ward of the crown.

Again, it would be a lot easier to judge this situation if we actually had facts on the matter. But we don't. So, while I sympathize with this woman's desire for liberty, I don't have any proof that she has fulfilled the associated responsibilities.

Edited April 3, 2010 by dizzy

[Alta4ever]

This has got to be the worst thread I have read, I would like my ten minutes back please.

1. For CAS to show up at you door and take your children, you must of been doing something horribly wrong.

2. bjre, you obviously don't know what a freedom is or how it works I have come to believe you are a propagandist for china. Please spread your misinformation and garbage elsewhere. MAybe you should spend you time working on the rights of those Millions Mao killed in pursuit of his vision of todays china.

[Dithers]

They are? Where?

What cave have you been living in?

Cross border raids between Ontario and Quebec are out of control. The Ottawa River is a virtual war zone.

Edited April 3, 2010 by Dithers

[Dithers]

You have asked all the unanswered questions.This womans plea falls on deaf ears in this case.

Besides this thread should be in Federal politics. This is not a federal issue. This is a left wing snow job on Harper. Don`t fall for this one folks.

Left wing snow job? Are you kidding me?

[Muddy]

Bjre, why did CAS take this womens child away? You seem to think she did nothing wrong . What was she accused of?

Who filed a complaint to CAS? Was it a family member? A teacher and school? Why do you and the lady in question call this Federal matter when it is a Municipal matter or provincial? It definately is not Federal. I don`t particuarly like Harper but blaming him for something outside of his jurisdition is over the top. Now how about giving us the whole truth in this case? Alta4ever has given me something to think about. Are you as he suspects shilling for Mao`s Red China?

How about answering some questions? There is a lot of truth missing in your posts. Ever hear of lieing by omission of all the facts?

[bjre]

Bjre, why did CAS take this womens child away? You seem to think she did nothing wrong . What was she accused of?

Who filed a complaint to CAS? Was it a family member? A teacher and school? Why do you and the lady in question call this Federal matter when it is a Municipal matter or provincial? It definately is not Federal. I don`t particuarly like Harper but blaming him for something outside of his jurisdition is over the top. Now how about giving us the whole truth in this case? Alta4ever has given me something to think about. Are you as he suspects shilling for Mao`s Red China?

How about answering some questions? There is a lot of truth missing in your posts. Ever hear of lieing by omission of all the facts?

OK, let's assume she did something wrong, for example, suppose she had wear a burka, what is your idea? use stone to kill her so that her human right be completely taken away?

When a private agency， that has government granted power and with the support of one of the strongest police force and most powerful court in a developed country， dealing with a weak woman, why do they fear of let a ombudsmen to investigate the cases be complaints? why are they so fear of video/audio recording and threat others not use it? why they close the case in such a hurry as soon as they know their meeting had been secret recorded.

So you began to stand with the strong state machine against the weak woman.

So if any woman in Canada meet any human rights issue, you will accuse her without any evidence and using all what you can suspect, why a woman in another country, you will attack that culture/religion/government there.

When you show no care about people's human rights near your home, of your own nation, those could be your brothers and sisters, all human right you are talking about are just lies.

Now it is clear you are just another hypocritical poor man who can only repeat what lobbyist talking in the media without your own thought. What a pity.

Edited April 3, 2010 by bjre

[bjre]

MAybe you should spend you time working on the rights of those Millions Mao killed in pursuit of his vision of todays china.

You should spend your time working on the the rights of most native people who has been killed in North America since 15th century.

And you should spend your time working on the thousands of kids killed in Residential Schools.

Edited April 3, 2010 by bjre

[Bonam]

Lol, you guys are ridiculous. How exactly is one supposed to "work on the rights" of people long dead?

[Alta4ever]

You should spend your time working on the the rights of most native people who has been killed in North America since 15th century.

And you should spend your time working on the thousands of kids killed in Residential Schools.

Yep figured as much. You are a propagandist, vile and to be reviled.

[Alta4ever]

Lol, you guys are ridiculous. How exactly is one supposed to "work on the rights" of people long dead?

You can't, but the post did smoke out that he/she cares not about the infringement of human rights by their own government in causing the death of 10's of millions of his/her fellow citizens. A person who displays little apathy for this kind of lack of respect for human life is going to try to lecture us on Canadian human rights is disgusting and very hypocritical.

[bjre]

Yep figured as much. You are a propagandist, vile and to be reviled.

I am not a propagandist. Maybe you are. Label others a propagandist can not prove your opinion on particular issue correct.

What I did is only reveal facts and hope human right situation in Canada be improved by real work instead of foolish others.

[Guest TrueMetis]

What I did is only reveal facts and hope human right situation in Canada be improved by real work instead of foolish others.

No you have yet to post any facts. You have posted an opinon and half of the story.

[Alta4ever]

I am not a propagandist. Maybe you are. Label others a propagandist can not prove your opinion on particular issue correct.

What I did is only reveal facts and hope human right situation in Canada be improved by real work instead of foolish others.

You revealed nothing.

[bjre]

No you have yet to post any facts. You have posted an opinon and half of the story.

If like what you say, what need to be fear of?

Why those people even bring so many China things here, as if those can be used as a universal proof. LOL

Edited April 3, 2010 by bjre

[Alta4ever]

BJRE when you can atone for all of the Human rights abuses in your country then maybe I will listen to you but until such time that things change you have no moral authority on this issue.

Here are some of the many abuses you can maybe explain.

China’s Lack Of Political Freedoms Opinion Towards China Brings Mixed Agendas Tibet Crackdown, 2008 China’s Poor Attempt To Deflect Attention Resentment Of Chinese Economic Policy Not Benefiting Locals What Is A Free Tibet? Lack Of International Unity, Despite Statements By Media And World Leaders China’s Actions Fuels The Very Thing It Says It Tries To Fight China And Africa; Concerns Over Rights And Exploitation More Information

Edited April 3, 2010 by Alta4ever

[Guest TrueMetis]

If like what you say, what need to be fear of?

Why those people even bring so many China things here, as if those can be used as a universal proof. LOL

What the hell are you talking about?

[bjre]

BJRE when you can atone for all of the Human rights abuses in your country then maybe I will listen to you but until such time that things change you have no moral authority on this issue.

Here are some of the many abuses you can maybe explain.

China’s Lack Of Political Freedoms Opinion Towards China Brings Mixed Agendas Tibet Crackdown, 2008 China’s Poor Attempt To Deflect Attention Resentment Of Chinese Economic Policy Not Benefiting Locals What Is A Free Tibet? Lack Of International Unity, Despite Statements By Media And World Leaders China’s Actions Fuels The Very Thing It Says It Tries To Fight China And Africa; Concerns Over Rights And Exploitation More Information

1. Why you don't care people in your own country, you care more about another country? Are you a communist?

2. Your informations are nothing new most come from corporate media and corporate sponsored institute based on lies that is valueless.

3. Fear of talking about the human rights issues in your own country means you don't care about human rights of any country. What you really care about is only blame others.

[Dithers]

1. Why you don't care people in your own country, you care more about another country? Are you a communist?

2. Your informations are nothing new most come from corporate media and corporate sponsored institute based on lies that is valueless.

3. Fear of talking about the human rights issues in your own country means you don't care about human rights of any country. What you really care about is only blame others.

Only a pure simpleton would even dream of comparing human rights claims to the amss murder in China that is commit in the name of "stability." Also, are you claiming that China did not ruthlessly subjugate Tibet?

Edited April 3, 2010 by Dithers

[Alta4ever]

1. Why you don't care people in your own country, you care more about another country? Are you a communist?

2. Your informations are nothing new most come from corporate media and corporate sponsored institute based on lies that is valueless.

3. Fear of talking about the human rights issues in your own country means you don't care about human rights of any country. What you really care about is only blame others.

Yep I thought so. You have no argument, nothing to debate and have been exposed.

[Dithers]

I don't blame him for being unable to form an argument.

Not much of a base to deal with when it comes to China.

[bjre]

Only a pure simpleton would even dream of comparing human rights claims to the amss murder in China that is commit in the name of "stability." Also, are you claiming that China did not ruthlessly subjugate Tibet?

So Tibet is the reason the Canadian woman's basic human right should be taken away?