New Democrat-Conservative alliance

[maplesyrup]

Greg Weston of the Sun Newspaper chain is reporting today that the fix was in between the Liberals and the PCs in the last election to ensure Joe Clark's, Anne

McLellan's, and perhps dozens more riding victories.

No wonder Joe Clark is walking around supporting the Liberals. It all makes sense now.

Well what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

I believe the only way to dislodge the Liberals is for the New Democrats and the Conservatives to do the same thing.

In every riding where the Lberal is perceived ahead, the Cons & the New Dems should decide which of their two candidates has the best chance of defeating the Liberal, and both parties back that candidate.

Also the Cons & the New Dems should join forces after the election to block a Liberal government.

It really is time for a change in Ottawa.

[Alliance Fanatic]

Just wait a minute, I though you were 110% against the conservatives. Actually a New Democrat-Conservative coalition could happen, but it probably won't. The reason's are simple

- NDP completely against any form of social conservatism, and the NDP is 110% politically correct, were as the conservatives favor traditional values.

-Health care, the NDP wants to pump more money into it, the conservatives want to reform it to make it more efficient, and save taxdollar money.

- NDP members such as Libby Davies and Svend Robinson are to radical on social issues for a coalition to even occur.

In order for a coalition to work these policies must be adopted.

- Democratic reforms [senate reform], as well as recall initiatives, and possibly referenda

- Social Issues- leave social issues such as abortion and gay rights up to the members, or put it to a referendum.

- NDP must abondon its radical anti-americanism, and support the war on terror.

- Conservatives must at the same time support good relations with the US as well as keep Canada independant.

- Lets give welfare to people that need it, and lets not give welfare to those who are simply lazy.

- Any crime against a person should be considered a hate crime, no matter what the color/sex/gender/ sexual orientation. So if a gay man attacks a christian than that should be considered a hate crime.

- Human Rights Commissions are useless in todays democracy, instead if a person feels that they have been mistreated than they should file a complaint with the police.

Actually down in the states many conservative politicians are supportive of tariffs, and protecting industries, such as Pat Buchanan.

As for taxes, I think that the tax rate should stay the same, however for every child a family has they should be entitled to get $1000 off their taxes each year

I actually support high taxes for multinational corporations such as Wal-Mart, at the same time businesses owned in Canada should have their taxes reduced.

I guess you can say I am abit of a Canadian nationalist. Protect Canadian industry while maintaining the moral fabric that has guided this country through world war 1, the depression, and world war 2.

But the NDP should realize that originally the CCF and early NDP was socially conservative, so was their leader Tommy Douglas, who was akin to Preston Manning.

What do you think of that Maplesyrup

[maplesyrup]

If we are going to get rid of the Liberals, both the Cons and the NDP are going to have to decide which has higher priority:

1 Integrity in government

or

2 Tax structure that each party supports.

The only way we are going to get rid of the Liberals is to chose Integrity, and for both parties compromise on the taxes.

I think the ball is in the Cons & the New Dem courts.

[Alliance Fanatic]

Well I'm actually dissapointed with how the campaign is being run. I was recently out door knocking, and a person asked me what the candidates position on abortion was I simply answered,

"The party believes in free votes on social issues such as abortion and gay rights"

He wanted to talk to the candidate about her position, however later it was decided by other members of the campaign team to simply ignore him.

I find it a bit sad that we have to ignore people because of political correctness and social liberalism.

However MS you have to answer the question of social conservatism in the conservative camp, before wondering what a coalition may look like because it might turn out to be a battle between

political correctness, social liberalism vs traditional values, social conservatism.

It was alot simpler back in the day because pretty well every party was social conservative, and would argue over economic matters, now its every party is different in terms of social issues, and most parties agree on fiscal issues.