naomiglover Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 So it's ridiculous to even suggest that this was done by the White House? So, is this just an immense coincidence? Tell me Shady. Were you up in arms when the previous administration, knowindly used faked evidence to justify their attack on Iraq? What about when the former administration revealed the identity of a CIA employee just to get back at her husband who spoke against the fake evidence? Are your views on honesty limited to parties? Quote Jewish Voice for Peace Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East
Shady Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Posted January 27, 2010 Tell me Shady. Were you up in arms when the previous administration, knowindly used faked evidence to justify their attack on Iraq? What about when the former administration revealed the identity of a CIA employee just to get back at her husband who spoke against the fake evidence? Are your views on honesty limited to parties? Your entire premise is false. So-called fake evidence wasn't used to justify a war in Iraq, and a former administration didn't reveal the identity of a CIA agent. It's perfectly acceptable to suggest that certain intelligence given higher priority than others, but the CIA produced nothing that was fake. Also, it was known for quite a while that Plame's identity was revealed Richard Armitage, not anyone from the Bush administration. That's fact. And the only liar is the whole situation, a habitual liar, was Joe Wilson. Quote
naomiglover Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Your entire premise is false. So-called fake evidence wasn't used to justify a war in Iraq, and a former administration didn't reveal the identity of a CIA agent. It's perfectly acceptable to suggest that certain intelligence given higher priority than others, but the CIA produced nothing that was fake. Also, it was known for quite a while that Plame's identity was revealed Richard Armitage, not anyone from the Bush administration. That's fact. And the only liar is the whole situation, a habitual liar, was Joe Wilson. So your views on honesty is limited by parties. Quote Jewish Voice for Peace Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East
Shady Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Posted January 27, 2010 So your views on honesty is limited by parties. Nope, not at all. Are yours? Quote
naomiglover Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 Nope, not at all. Are yours? Definitely not. I don't support any particular party. I don't come into these forums with pompoms like yourself. Quote Jewish Voice for Peace Canadians for Justice and Peace in the Middle East
BubberMiley Posted January 27, 2010 Report Posted January 27, 2010 So you're willing to believe the White House would initiate a deceptive letter-writing campaign with absolutely no evidence and a lot of wild-eyed speculation, but unwilling to believe anything bad against the Bush administration even though there are reams of evidence, including the report of an independent prosecutor? Tell me more about why you think Obama was behind the letter-writing campaign. I love reading about it. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Shady Posted January 27, 2010 Author Report Posted January 27, 2010 So you're willing to believe the White House would initiate a deceptive letter-writing campaign with absolutely no evidence and a lot of wild-eyed speculation, but unwilling to believe anything bad against the Bush administration even though there are reams of evidence, including the report of an independent prosecutor? Tell me more about why you think Obama was behind the letter-writing campaign. I love reading about it. You're grossly mistaken. I didn't say that President Obama was behind the letter-writting campaign. He has more important things to do. However, the communications wing of the White House or Democratic Party is designed for this type of exercise. After all, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... The Media's Favorite Healthcare Analyst Revealed To Be On Obama's Dole MIT economist Jonathan Gruber has become the go-to economist for fans of the health care reform wending its way through congress. He regularly produces analyses showing how great reform is going to be for people buying insurance in the individual market, and has been a vocal advocate for the excise tax. His prominence made him a natural lead-in for Ron Brownstein's recent piece on the health care bill for Atlantic Politics: But he probably wouldn't have been cited with quite the same authority--particularly by mainstream media--if he'd been more upfront about the fact that he's being paid almost $300,000 by the Obama Administration for "special studies and analysis" of the health care. Link I gotta admit, paying industry professionals to shill for you policies is a very effective method of propaganda. Again, Axelrod et all should be congratulated, even though what they did was pretty bad. One can't argue it's effectiveness. Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) Again, Axelrod et all should be congratulated, even though what they did was pretty bad. Again, where's your evidence for "what they did?" All parties have shills--some paid and many, many independent, uncontrolled volunteers. Given your topic-starting count, I wouldn't be surprised if you yourself have written hundreds upon hundreds of repetitive letters to various media outlets expressing your ODS. That's fine and please continue. I certainly wouldn't blame the GOP for your behaviour though. I just think it's hilarious when rabid party shills think they have something on their opponent by exposing other shills. Edited January 28, 2010 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jbg Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 Tell me Shady. Were you up in arms when the previous administration, knowindly used faked evidence to justify their attack on Iraq? What about when the former administration revealed the identity of a CIA employee just to get back at her husband who spoke against the fake evidence? Are your views on honesty limited to parties? Are you a one-trick pony? West bad, Islam good? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
BubberMiley Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 Are you a one-trick pony? West bad, Islam good? Who said anything about the west and islam? And aren't there islamic people in the west? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
BubberMiley Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 (edited) And the only liar is the whole situation, a habitual liar, was Joe Wilson. I assume you're referring to when he broke decorum and shouted "you lie!" at the president. I agree. That was itself a lie. Edited January 28, 2010 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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