segnosaur Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 SegnosaurYes I have fire insurance. And there are more valid and more important issues than arsonists. Faulty electrical in the house, or faulty products you buy that need electricity. I would bet more fires are started accidentaly by cigarettes than purposely by arson! You simply need to address what is the most likely and most common risk. Common and weighing the threats us that middle ground. Well, given the fact that there's virtually no risk at getting the vaccine, yet the risk of not getting the vaccine could result in a doubling of your chance of hospitializion or death, the decision to get vaccinated should be pretty much a no-brainer. Add what it is with people suggesting that it is OK because it doesn't kill more people than regular seasonal flu? Did you ever think that preventing deaths is a 'good thing', even if we've had similar death rates in the past? Let me put it another way, if somebody hit you in the head with a hammer every day for the past year, and then said they were going to hit you in the head with a crowbar every day for the NEXT year, would you say "Oh, its OK, because I'm used to getting hit in the head". Really, it boggles the mind. If someone hit me in the head with a hammer once, I would hurt him back and twice as hard. They would not get a chance to use the crowbar and go all Gordon Freeman on my ass. And this is a really really horrible comparison or analogy. Actually, its a perfect anology. You were the one who pointed out that the risks may not be greater for H1N1 than for other seasonal flus. We've been getting "hit in the head" for years, by having people die unneccarily because they didn't get vaccinated. Now, we've switched from the hammer to the crowbar (change in flu strain to the H1N1 variety). The fact that someone wouldn't get vaccinated because the risk was the same as previous years is the same as saying you are happy to get hit in the head with a crowbar because you've been hit in the head with a hammer before. Well, you can go ahead and have the vaccine. My logic behind it is that I have not had a vaccine in over 20 years. And have been sick with the flu maybe once since then. I got the flu much more often when I was a kid. Idiotic statement. Anecdotes are not "evidience". So, by that logic, are cigarettes safe because someone used to smoke 3 packs of cigarettes a day yet lived to be 100? I find it quite revealing... I post reference after reference to scientific studies involving large groups of people, published in peer-reviewed journals in order to support my opinions. You, on the other hand, give an irrelevant anecdote. In the U.K., H1N1 cases have recently doubled. Over 100 people have died. I wonder how many of those thought "I've never had the flu before so I should be safe". If I am sick, even with a cold, I stay home and don't want to infect others. That is a good course of action. However, the problem is, you can actually be infected with the flu, and pass it on to others, for a full day before you actually start showing flu-like symptoms. From: http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/qa.htm People infected with seasonal and 2009 H1N1 flu shed virus and may be able to infect others from 1 day before getting sick to 5 to 7 days after. Your best course of action should be: - Get the vaccination - Still stay home if you get sick Quote
Guest katara Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 Segnosaur has a point though.. its better be safe than sorry. But still a lot of people is not aware about it. baby clothes Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Posted October 22, 2009 .....Your best course of action should be:- Get the vaccination - Still stay home if you get sick Best compared to what? I refuse to elevate my threat assessment for H1N1 just because it's the current media doomsday darling. The advice to get vaccinated is sound, reasonable.....and totally voluntary unless compelled by employment or law. It's gotten to the point where we expect government to protect us from every conceivable threat, and hype the natural order of things for better news ratings. Flu kills a lot of people every year, and it will continue to do so. So H1N1 retro-virus....come and get me.....after polio, diptheria, whooping cough, scarlet fever, spinal menningitis, HIV, parotitis, anthrax, ebola, and the Loch Ness Monster, I'm not so worried. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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