Iggy flops [i]again[/i]

[capricorn]

If he can't make the little decisions......Lord help us if he has to make a big one.

According to Ignatieff, Le Prohon called him to say she preferred to compete for the nomination in Jeanne-LeBer.

En point de presse, vendredi après-midi, Michael Ignatieff a soutenu que c'était Nathalie Le Prohon elle-même qui l'avait appelé en matinée pour lui dire qu'elle préférait participer à une investiture ouverte dans Jeanne-Le Ber.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Polit...vendredi2.shtml

A little push from Le Prohon is all it took to help him along in his decision.

His next challenge is to mend fences with Coderre.

[fellowtraveller]

He hasn't done jack all on stimulus as only 12% of the money has been spent. It could've temporarily boosted employment if the money had actually been spent. Now, construction season is over and who knows which municipality will get what they were promised. THOSE were the arguments I was making which you so conveniently declined to comment on. So, really, is it my ideological bias that is hampering the debate?

It is hard to tell why your debate is hampered, maybe it is the lack of substance in your posts. Just a guess..

Like any good steward, the Tories pay for the work when the municipalities have completed their work,and invoice them on completion. Your criticism should lie with municpalities for how long they take to get through planning and implementation, and how long it takes the feds to pay when work is complete. Would you have it some other way, or is this just the usual uninformed whine??

Would you have the Tories continue the Liberal method of spreading a few hundred million to ad agencies?

Did you know that the main agenda topic at the G20 summit is how to wind down the stimulus projects in every country?

Edited September 28, 2009 by fellowtraveller

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Of course the puppet masters lending the money to the pet governments think they have spent enough for now and would rather get a few paychecks out of them before we go to the next round of the price is right.

[fellowtraveller]

As a taxpayer, I demand a larger deficit.

[KeyStone]

Actually that's a really smart move on Ignatieff's part. If the only reason the NDP are supporting the CPC is to see this motion pass they will have no reason to vote against the confidence motion in October. It will force the NDP to continue to support the CPC in spite of their principles or vote for an election come October.

The pressure is really being put on the NDP to put their money where their mouth has been for the last year. Let's see if they have the wherewithal to do so.

FYI you probably don't want to copy and paste an entire article as the mods don't like that.

I don't think getting into a game of chicken with the NDP is a great idea, given that it now appears that neither party wants an election.

Perhaps the two parties could sit and come to some sort of agreement rather than the perpetual accusations of propping up the Conservatives.

[jdobbin]

Perhaps the two parties could sit and come to some sort of agreement rather than the perpetual accusations of propping up the Conservatives.

I think those accusations came from the NDP towards the Liberals. That would constitute perpetual.

It is up the NDP now to decide if they want to go the polls.

[Keepitsimple]

If, as expected, the Liberals come out with a strongly-worded non-confidence motion - and the NDP supports the goverment....then I suspect the NDP will actually rise in the polls at the further expense of the Liberals. Putting aside all of the political machinations that only pundits seem to care about, Canadians who by and large don't want an election will find favour with the NDP action - regardless of the reasons. Left-leaning Liberals who are tiring of Mr. Ignatieff might start trickling away to the NDP.

[Shady]

Do the Liberals really think Canadians want another election? Are they mad?

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Do the Liberals really think Canadians want another election? Are they mad?

We didn't want the last election either, but we got it in spite of what we wanted to serve no other purpose than to provide an opportunity for the government to get a majority. This time the other side wants a kick at the cat and it is therefore a bad idea!

[madmax]

As a taxpayer, I demand a larger deficit.

Keep voting Harper and your demands will continue to be met.

[madmax]

Do the Liberals really think Canadians want another election? Are they mad?

No but, Conservatives thought didn't give a shit that Canadians Didn't want an election last year. That didn't stop them from making a mockery of their own election law, and putting almost half of Canadians to sleep with an unwanted election. The only difference this time, is that the public is ready to hand out retribution to the party that gets accused of causing the election. This will make it difficult for the Liberals to force the issue, the CPC to do another stunt like last year, or even orchestrate a poison pill, and it makes it difficult for the NDP to claim moral superiority and vote down the govenment on principle, if they expect to be around.

NDP polling numbers appear high, because they didn't cause the fall of the government.

The Liberals know that Canadians don't want an election, but that is no reason for them not to be prepared if there is one. Unlike Dion who got smoked last year.

And with time, all parties can get their finances in order and even more importantly, the media cannot afford an election and will publicly skewer the party they feel is to blame.

I wouldn't say the Liberals are mad. Possibly disconnected from the voting public, and somewhat self centred on their drive for power. But I would say they are neither mad nor politically incompetent when it comes to reading polls. Infact they are the best at it.

[jdobbin]

If, as expected, the Liberals come out with a strongly-worded non-confidence motion - and the NDP supports the goverment....then I suspect the NDP will actually rise in the polls at the further expense of the Liberals.

And if they don't, will that mean that people want the Liberals to act like an Opposition?

[jdobbin]

Do the Liberals really think Canadians want another election? Are they mad?

Do you really think Canadians to vote in support of the government at every turn?