Smallc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 The government can change any law it wants. The precedent can no longer apply to a new law. Now they're enshrined, and I'm not sure why someone would think that's a bad thing. Quote
Alta4ever Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 The government can change any law it wants. The precedent can no longer apply to a new law. Now they're enshrined, and I'm not sure why someone would think that's a bad thing. It was unneeded, and now we do have problems with the consitution because elements of it are not applied equally and it cannot be changed. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Elements are not applied equally? It can't be changed? Quote
Alta4ever Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 Elements are not applied equally? It can't be changed? No it can't if you recalled what happened the last two times an atempt was made to change the consitution. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 It doesn't matter what happened before. It's possible to change the Constitution...hell, the way to do it is written right into the Constitution. Quote
Alta4ever Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 It doesn't matter what happened before. It's possible to change the Constitution...hell, the way to do it is written right into the Constitution. it is not possible our recent history has proven it. It is a political document and politics is about the art of the possible and changing the consitution is not a political possiblity. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 it is not possible our recent history has proven it. No, it hasn't. It's proven that we haven't been successful so far, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible. The reality of the problem is that there's no pressing reason to change it. Quote
Keepitsimple Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 No, it hasn't. It's proven that we haven't been successful so far, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible. The reality of the problem is that there's no pressing reason to change it. If there is a compelling reason for Ontario and Quebec to open the Constitution, maybe something could be done.....but the desire has to come from the provinces. There just don't seem to be any compelling reasons right now. Quote Back to Basics
Smallc Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 The desire has to come from a large element of the population, and right now Canadians don't seem to care. Sure some might want to change one thing or another, but the drive isn't there, because the problem isn't very large. Quote
Goat Boy© Posted September 16, 2009 Report Posted September 16, 2009 It doesn't matter what happened before. It's possible to change the Constitution...hell, the way to do it is written right into the Constitution. It is also possible to travel to Saturn's moon Titan and mine it for Steel & Methane gas. In fact, the way to do it and the physics necessary are already figured out. Quote
Wild Bill Posted September 16, 2009 Author Report Posted September 16, 2009 It is also possible to travel to Saturn's moon Titan and mine it for Steel & Methane gas. In fact, the way to do it and the physics necessary are already figured out. Exactly! Many things are possible but not likely, for a variety of reasons. I believe we will industrialize space, but only when we have no other choice because our backs will be to the wall. Afterwards, we will say "Geez, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be!" but still, it would have been the very last thing we did. As a society we are not very proactive. The Japanese are much better at it than us. Look what they do with robotics. China and India, countries that we think are more 'third world' than us have larger space programs than Canada. There is a constitutional amending formula, so theoretically it is possible to change the Constitution. Is it likely? Nope! The conditions of that formula are such that you would have better odds at winning the Lottery 3 times in a row before it could happen! The obstacles are psychological. Just because we know how to do something doesn't mean we actually will. Politics is all about psychology and perception. The rule applies even stronger to politics. So if Smallc thinks that the mere possibility of a thing is enough I would imagine that he would have every confidence continually trying to fill an inside straight at poker. I would cheerfully invite him to play at my table any time! I would hope that he would bring lots of money with him! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Smallc Posted September 17, 2009 Report Posted September 17, 2009 (edited) Fine, we should make our Constitution so easy to change that nothing is it has any guarantee of Continuity. If any of you were Americans, I think that the Conservatives there would hang you. The Constitution is supposed to be hard to change. That's the idea. It doesn't mean that necessary changes are impossible. Edited September 17, 2009 by Smallc Quote
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